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Posted by 5dana8 (Member # 7935) on :
 
Looking for any articles or research that isn't polluted by the CDC on tick and saliva transmision.

You are not supposed to handle ticks anymore because I have heard the tick saliva can carry disease.

If this is so than how attached and how long does it have to be? And what about the saliva?

And just one more question . Can a tick bite you like a misquito and be interupted from his meal and not quite done when you find them and can this cause tramission of lyme and co's?

I know I can't be the only one confused on this issue.

Thanks a head of time for any information you might have [Smile]
 
Posted by Michelle M (Member # 7200) on :
 
Hey Dana.

Here you are. But heavens, let's don't agitate the entire AMA/CDC myth that they gotta be on you for 48 hours or so. It's really best everyone not know any better. (Except us tick nerds, a'course.)

Michelle
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J Clin Microbiol. 1994 March; 32(3): 755-758.
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Isolation of Borrelia burgdorferi from saliva of the tick vector, Ixodes scapularis.

C Ewing, A Scorpio, D R Nelson, and T N Mather
Center for Vector-Borne Disease, University of Rhode Island, Kingston 02881.


A method for cultivating and isolating Lyme disease spirochetes, Borrelia burgdorferi, from the saliva of vector ticks, Ixodes scapularis (formerly known as Ixodes dammini), is described.

Saliva was collected from partially engorged ticks after application of pilocarpine to induce salivation.

B. burgdorferi was isolated from 8 of 14 (57%) of the saliva samples derived from ticks infected with the bacteria, as determined by direct immunofluorescent-antibody assay of tick hemolymph.

A comparison of the protein profiles of the salivary isolates and a highly passaged strain (B31) showed that the salivary isolates all lacked a 22-kDa protein known to increase with continuous passage, but exhibited larger amounts of the OspA and OspB proteins than did the highly passaged B31 strain.
 
Posted by 5dana8 (Member # 7935) on :
 
Thanks Michelle M

For finding this article. [Smile]

I wonder if the skin is porus, can the saliva be transmitted? Do ticks droll? And what if an infected tick drolled on a cut in your skin?

And also I wonder if the ticks gets thirsty and takes a bite if the person would still be at risk even though not attached or engougered?

With lyme being the #1 infectous disease in this country, you would think there would be more research readily available in this area.

This does sound paronoide considering my recent encounter with one said devil but I have always wondered this. Now more than ever.

take care
 
Posted by trails (Member # 1620) on :
 
Arno Karlen's Book titled "A Biography of a Germ" has a lot of stuff about the ticks saliva and digestive process and transmission of Bb. He believes that mosquitoes can NOT transmit Bb because of how they digest things---ticks dont really digest--I dont know what they do but it makes it easier for the Bb to stay alive.

I disagree and believe flies and mosquitoes and can transmit.

It is a great book---I found it at my library and have gotten copies for family. Check it out.
 
Posted by 5dana8 (Member # 7935) on :
 
Thanks trails
I will look for the book at my libary.

It was easier ..no big surprise, to find information on rabies and saliva transmission
Here what a link said:

"Although saliva most often occurs through a bite,infected saliva can also transmit rabies by:

muscous menbranes,(eyes,nose and mouth)
broken skin or an abrasion
inhaling feces (such as infected bat fece's
possibly from drinking unpasterized milk from a rabid cow"

http://tjsamson.client.web-health.com/web-health/topics/generalhealth/generalhealthsub/ge...

I would think lyme would be similar? Except for the milk and fece's part. It's not a virus but one heck of a tricky bacterium
 
Posted by 5dana8 (Member # 7935) on :
 
I found tons of articles on "safe" handling of ticks.

Here's one:
http://www.emedicinehealth.com/ticks/page5_em.htm

Most say don't handle them. This one says to wear goves. At the bottom it says to disinfect all instuments used in tick removal...

Still can't find a single article why.
 


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