I keep coming across this information during my research and the different possible connections to this devastating disease.
I do believe that the streaks caused by bartonella are actually caused by worms laying eggs. It just makes sense. Also any lesions you find are usually worms.
Do the research yourself and you might be surprised. The images can be found by googling in:
derm atlas + image cutaneous larva migrans
Posted by Ann-OH (Member # 2020) on :
A lesion is any wound to body tissue. Bartonella also known as cat-scratch fever causes leisons and Lymphomatic swellings. An organism is involved, but it is not a worm.
Here are some really good pictures picturesof Bartonella skin problems and swellings.
This wasn't meant to be a debate, just a strong possibility. I read your post and link, but it doesn't give any possible causes, other than to say that it is caused by bartonella.
Did you research the data I posted? Anyway, my intention is only to help and look into other possibilties of what is causing this devastating disease.
My streaks are almost gone since I have been treating the worm-parasite connection, and worms are coming out of these lesions.
Pretty yucky, I know. Thanks for your reply.
Gael
Posted by kelmo (Member # 8797) on :
My daughter would plotz if she saw those images and thought she had bugs laying eggs in her.
She has bartonella and has many many streaks on abdomen and behind knees. They don't look like any of those.
There was a good representation of those straea somewhere.
I have noticed that the streaks are fading, but that may be due to the Rifampin.
It would be interesting to know what causes them, but I hope it's not hookworm.
Posted by AlisonP (Member # 7771) on :
Gael,
I think you may have hit on something important here! In the back of my mind, I was wondering how a blood disease such as Bartonealla manifests itself as raised long streaks. From blood to such specific locations...didn't really make sense to me.
I do believe 100 percent that sick people, all sick people, have parasites, it's just a question of which kind and whether they are helping get rid of dying or necrotizing tissue or are burdening the system.
Whew! I feel like it should have been easier for me to see the connection there.
Here's what I'm going to do, since i have a nice fat Bart rash on my abdomen: I'm going to start my parasite cleanse. Haven't done one in awhile since it taxes the sysstem.
I use Clarkia, which kills 3 stages of parasites: eggs, babies and adults. It has wormwood (artemisia), green black walnut hull, and cloves. It is an awesome cleanse and I have passed lots of icky stuff like liver flukes from doing it before.
Gael....thank you for the lightbulb moment - I think what you said is a distinct possibility.
Did you say you saw worms coming out of you? Can you go into a bit more detail about that? I am curious.
Alison
Posted by gael1111 (Member # 8816) on :
Hi Alison,
Of course it would take someone who is an outside of the box thinker like you to see this. Don't feel bad that you didn't see this before, it took me years.
I also encourage everyone to look into filariasis, since these were also found in ticks. This causes bumps and nodules, that is where the worms are storing their eggs.
I will gladly share my protocol with anyone that is interested, but I have to go and eat something first.
Thanks for being awake Alison,
Gael
Posted by AlisonP (Member # 7771) on :
Whee! I'm so excited. Which is kind of funny - to be excited about the possibility of worms erupting from my abdomen lolol.
I just wanted to add, and this is actually in relation to the video you posted of the filaria worms... (http://www.filariasiscenter.org/news/dance.htm) ... that I have experienced quite often that "fluttery" sensation in my guts. I figured it was parasitical in nature, I just didn't know which kind. Connection?
In addition to livwer flukes, I have also passed unidentifiable stuff that may or may not be the filarial worms, and also roundworm.
A.
Posted by minimonkey (Member # 8693) on :
Gael -
I'd be interested in hearing about your protocol when you have time --
Posted by viva (Member # 8183) on :
Gael,
Can you please describe the bumps and nodules that filariasis can cause--e.g., appearance, locations, sensations (itching?), etc.
Thanks for this info. Am following this thread with great interest.
Viva
Posted by gael1111 (Member # 8816) on :
Really Glad to see you all are open to this. We need to go outside of the box and consider all possibilities if we are to get well.
The protocol I use is:
Herbs specific for each condition from the Monastery Of Herbs (will give more details on these herbs later, as they are specific for each condition) spirochetes, worms, parasites,etc)
added vitc/salt 1 month ago
Drink 2 qts of plain kefir/day(great herxes from the kefir)
Plant enzymes
coconut and tea tree oil on scalp.
I have lots of parasites, worms, eggs and heaven only knows pouring out of me in cycles.
I was deathly ill 8 months ago and this has saved my life. Was dx with lyme & co 1999. Had infections since 1978. Was hospitalized many times including ICU 5 times.
I can only say that this is the only protocol that has worked for me.
Hope this helps,
Gael
Posted by gael1111 (Member # 8816) on :
Viva,
The lumps and nodules I have are on the back of my head on each side(occipital region)in other words, base of skull. I also have a large one on my left arm, and one behind each knee.
I believe you really can find them almost anywhere. View the filarial video and you can see how they cluster. If you get little cluster like granules on your fingers (can itch)or anywhere else, I believe these are the eggs.
They have also been called dancing worms, and that I believe is what causes the internal vibrations in a lot of people.
I'm very aware that basically everyone has parasites -- we immunosuppressed types are much more prone to getting symptoms from them, I think.
I've done herbal cleanses in the past -- they have worked somewhat -- but now I'm really getting interested in doing the salt/c protocol, too.
This gives new meaning to the feeling lots of us have of "creepy, crawly bugs" Maybe not entirely neuropathy after all...
Have you had the worms that crawled out of you identified by someone who knows --- um -- wormology? (I suspect I mean parasitology or maybe entomology, actually...) or can you identify them??
Posted by gael1111 (Member # 8816) on :
Hi MiniMonkey,
I grew up in the suburbs and played in the woods daily. I definetely know what a worm looks like. I have no interest or the time and energy it takes to prove it.
In doing my research this information just started to fit together for me and make sense. This thread is meant to be informational and to give everyone another view as to why many of us are chronic.
As I mentioned before, I am not interested in a debate. My intention is to give another insight as to possible causes so we can all heal from this devastating disease.
By the way, the salt/c really helps, but for me it wasn't enough without the herbs. The combination really helped.
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