I am newly diagnosed and currently taking herbal supplements and magnesium. What do you all think about foregoing the antibiotic treatment and starting Rife machine therapy instead?
Posted by *Daisy* (Member # 9593) on :
Look for posts from Bryan the 'skyking' he has a great book on rifing...
do a search... tons of info, you can also join some yahoo groups about rifing
Posted by bugabooboo (Member # 7383) on :
I have rifed for 10 months. Antibiotics prior to rifing.
If I had to do it over, I'd probably do it the same way.
Bug
Posted by missextreme (Member # 3610) on :
Do rifing! It has helped me more than anything.
Charis
Posted by shazdancer (Member # 1436) on :
The short answer, my opinion, is going with antibiotics as your primary defense. Look into Rife perhaps in addition to medicine, or if you can no longer take antibiotics.
The science of treating Lyme still weighs heavily on the side of antibiotics, and alternative therapies just don't have the proven success statistics yet.
That said, I would be looking at alternatives if I had truly exhausted medicinal protocols, such as different antibiotics in combination, IV, and treatment of co-infections.
Just my opinion, Shaz
Posted by bobdavis (Member # 510) on :
I did antibiotics for 2 years then went on to using Rife devices. That was about 4 years ago. I still use natural antibiotics and Rife like devices.
My favorite devices are a low power "Doug Coil", a high power "Thumper" and an ozone device.
The "Doug Coil" is the easiest to make. You need a high power audio amplifier (250 watts to 1,000 watts), a computer program to make the frequencies and a degaussing coil.
A "Thumper" is basically a camera flash strobe with a coil in series with the flash tube. I have replaced the flash tube with a high power SCR.
The "Ozone device" is a frequency generator to a power FET to a car ignition coil. The high voltage from the coil goes to a copper plate that is under a sheet of glass. While standing on a sheet of 1/2 inch plexiglass, I place my hand on top of the glass. My hand is then one plate of the ozone maker, and the ozone is made under my skin and hence goes directly into the bloodstream.
Posted by LJS (Member # 9880) on :
Thank you all. I am still on the fence as to how to proceed. I do not know if filling my body with antibiotics for 2 years is better than rifing it. It is a real challange to work through all the data. I have the books on Rifes, but most of them suggest the machine only after antibiotics fail. My doctor has started me on Benecar to allow my own immune system to react a little. Have some small Herx reactions, but nothing major and I clearly have to choose a treatment path soon. Appreciate all of your help and information. Thanks.
Posted by serendipity (Member # 8474) on :
Hi LJS, I have not used antibiotics in my treatment. By the time I was diagnosed I had lyme for at least sixteen years. I felt toxic and reacted poorly to medicaitons and most supplements.
Initially, I took herbs such as Cumanda which lowered the lyme and bartonella load. My energy and neurological symptoms improved. I went from bedridden to out and about for most of the day. Still far from my old energetic, sharp, witty self though
I am now rifing using EMEM3, magpulser and a contact machine. Througout the treatment, my doctor has focused on lowering my overall toxic load, strenghing my body with nutritional supplements, and balancing hormones.
Posted by bluesdoc (Member # 10017) on :
I'm using an EMEM3D2t machine and herx with each treament, so I know it's killing mature forms. The challenge is to wait until the cyst and CWD (L) forms become mature spirochetes, if they do/will, or to add other protocols along the way. This could take a very long time. I'm seriously considering doing the Marshall protocol (or a variant) at this point, several months into treatment. Its science appeals to me. Get Bryan's book and check out his forum. Bryan himself did a modified MP after a long period of rifing to finish off the bugs. While you're at it, check out the Marshall protocol site. But be forwarned - it's not for the timid. But neither is late Lyme.........
jon
Posted by 5dana8 (Member # 7935) on :
This is just my personal opinion but rife would not be my first choice.
Abx has a better track record and has there has been more in scientific research in this than in the rife.
I am doing rife now, so don't get me wrong. But I did 3 years of treatment first to get my germ load down.
And only now because my stomach gave out. It my stomach had not given out I would be more than happy to go back to the abx. Why? Because for me in the last 20 years it works.
I have an EMEM3D 2T machine but it's only been 4/5 months aprox and too soon to tell if it can hold back the lyme & co's.
Good luck on your journey to wellness in whatever you decide to do
Posted by LJS (Member # 9880) on :
Thank you so much for sharing these experiences. I have looked in to the Marshall Protocol and am reading a lot about that. My doctor is very favorably impressed with that method of treatment.
I believe I have had Lyme for at least a decade, but my only symptoms are arthritic. We have yet to get any positives on any testing to include Western Blot and Elissa. So, it will be a bit of a guessing game regarding either abx or rife. Still on the fence.
Posted by Lymetoo (Member # 743) on :
I began rifing after having taken abx for 4 yrs straight, then was bit again...off and on abx for the 5th yr. Now I've been off abx and only rifing.
I have the Dan Tracy model, EMEM 5A. I think it's awesome, but still would advise abx for the first year if you've had it a long time.
By the time I found out I had lyme, I'd had it for 42 yrs...now we're up to 48.
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