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Posted by Tincup (Member # 5829) on :
 
For me this is a tuff one to figure out... cause it has numbers in it! BLAH!

Can anyone summarize what ever they are saying about Lyme and put it into little words, few number theory things, etc.

THANKS!

[Big Grin]


http://www.canlyme.com/megan_geostatistical_analysis2.html
 
Posted by aklnwlf (Member # 5960) on :
 
I couldn't even get through the entire article. Never took Statistics but it's definitely interesting.

I'll have to read this one when it's not so late.
 
Posted by bettyg (Member # 6147) on :
 
Tincup, this was written by a 15-yr. old scholar where she won a NATL. AWARd! She's a member here too; posted 3-4 times.

If you do a search on her name, MEGAN, we have 2-3 threads about this.

Also go to TREEPATROL'S NEWBIE LINKS, I broke this up for us neuro lymies when DAYSTAR, Margie?, posted it earlier this year.

In them, it's explained the short/sweet of this. Sorry, my time is over; must go to bed...Bettyg [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Truthfinder (Member # 8512) on :
 
Tinny, one thing to bear in mind about Megan's study - which is really a rather amazing accomplishment - is that is isn't just Lyme deaths but "specifically all arthropod-borne disease deaths". Still, the conclusions are significant.

Also, bear in mind, too, that in this study, only those counties with a population of over 100,000 were included in the study. Well, that eliminates a lot of areas that are probably highly significant.

Tracy
 
Posted by Truthfinder (Member # 8512) on :
 
Oh, yeah - and the apparent correlation between breast cancer and MS - and therefore Lyme - is certainly a significant finding.

Tracy
 
Posted by lymemomtooo (Member # 5396) on :
 
Haven't had time to understand it all but will look more since Tracy's comment. All of my female relatives in Maryland, for the previous two generations, above me, have had cancer. Most have had breast cancer.

But they must also have some genetic things since my daughter was tested and is genetically suceptible to mold and everything out there..Her llmd reminds me that she did not get it from strangers.

OR HAS THE FAMILY BEEM LYME INFECTED FOR AT least 4 generations.. [cussing]
 
Posted by bettyg (Member # 6147) on :
 
Tincup, here you go on 1 of the threads I was telling you about that I started.

Notice also that MEGAN comes on here, so you could send her a PRIVATE MESSAGE even though you don't allow anyone to send you!

She can REPLY back to your PM with no difficulty! I've done this with several newbies who do NOT allow PMs; works great!!!

http://flash.lymenet.org/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=041853#000000

Bettyg [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Jill E. (Member # 9121) on :
 
Hmmm, the breast cancer idea is one I hadn't thought of in terms of Lyme before. For years, there have been certain locations in the U.S. that have abnormally high incidents of breast cancer.

Marin County in San Francisco is one. Somewhere on Long Island is another. I'm doing this from memory, but it stuck in my mind because theses were areas where I have family and friends. The researchers kept saying it was because these were high-income areas and people had extravagant diets, or maybe it was something environmental.

These are also Lyme hotspots. What a fascinating connection.

I so very, very much admire Megan's work. I have a friend who moved to Colorado and got MS and I keep trying to persuade him to consider Lyme.

Jill
 
Posted by seibertneurolyme (Member # 6416) on :
 
I think truthfinder is incorrect -- the way I understood the study was that counties with less than 100,000 population are still included in the totals and in the analysis, but the info is lumped into other counties or into the state as a whole -- I forget which exactly.

Bea Seibert
 
Posted by 2mag (Member # 10153) on :
 
hi

fascinating to see this geographical connection with Cancer, lyme and of course MS and ALS


the most important sentence ---" As mentioned previously, for reasons of confidentiality, for each state the CDC released only total deaths of all the counties with less than 100,000 people.----

----a smearing effect in which some vital Lyme information may have been washed out. Nonetheless, sufficient similarities exist in this study to suggest, but not confirm, a common spirochetal basis for MS and Lyme."

So thanks to the duckies and CDC --the data is skewed and does not reflect the real problem

amazing a sixteen year old has figured this out!!! Go girl---

2 mag
 
Posted by Truthfinder (Member # 8512) on :
 
I don't think so, Bea, but I'm not the greatest as deciphering some of these studies.

But as 2mag pointed out, because of the limitations on the info that the CDC was willing to release, it does skew the overall picture. I think maybe we can agree on that.

Tracy
 


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