Hi, Someone asked about probiotics but since this is so important to everyone, I thought I'd make it its own thread. Here's an article about a bunch of probios that were tested and what was found:
Probiotic test Results Oct. 1, 2000 - by Harry Bronozian
Below are the lab test results for 16 probiotic supplements.
Comparison Between Total Probiotic Counts Indicated on Labels by Various Supplement Manufacturers and Independent Lab Test Results Performed in Triplicate at Deibel Labs, Madison, Wisconsin, Tel. (608) 241-2252 in Sept. 2000. Bottles were unopened and shipped by Fedex next day air in foam box with Gel Ice.
For each product, the first is Manufacturer or Manufactured for, second is Brand Name, third Lot No/Expiration Date, fourth Total Probiotic Bacterial Count on Label, fifth Total Lactobacilli per Deibel Lab Test, sixth Total Bifidobacteria per Deibel Lab Test and seventh is Total Probiotic Bacteria per Deibel Lab Test.
1. Garden of Life; Primal Defence HSO probiotic Formula (multistrain capsules), Not Indicated; Not Indicated; 1.8 million/capsule; 1.8 million per capsule; 3.6 million per capsule.
2. Life Science Products Inc.; Nature's Biotics (multistrain capsules); Not Indicated; Not Indicated; None; None; None.
3. PDI Labs; Florabac Probiotic-b Plus (multistrain capsules; Not Indicated; 5 mg of Bacillus Laterosporus plus 500 million microorganisms per capsule; 1.1 billion/capsule; 1.2 billion/capsule; 2.3 billion per capsule.
5. Natren; Mega Dophilus (single strain powder); Lot No. N235 Exp. o5/30/01; 2 billion cfu/gram; 2.1 billion cfr/gram; No Bifidobacteria; 2.1 billion per gram.
6. Natren; Bifido Factor (single strain powder); Lot No. NB 193 Exp. 12/30/00; 2 billion cfu/gram; No Lactobacilli; 7.1 billion/gram; 7.1 billion per gram.
7. Natren; Trenev Trio or Healthy Trinity (3 strain capsules); Lot No. TT026 Exp. 03/30/01; 30 billion cfu per capsule; 3.4 billion/capsule; 28 billion per capsule; 31 billion per capsule.
8. Ethical Nutrients (owned by Metagenics); Maxi Dophilus (single strain powder); Lot No. 0028AO Exp. 05/01; 2.7 billion cfu per gram; 5.3 billion/gram; No. Bifidobcteria; 5.3 billion per gram.
9. Custom Probiotics; Adult Formula CP-1 (five strain, capsule); Lot No. 5690 Exp. 06/01; 25 billion cfu per capsule; 17 billion/capsule; 27 billion/capsule; 44 billion per capsule.
10. Custom Probiotics; Ultra Potency Probiotic Powder Formulation (Five Strain); Custom Formulated Upon Order Exp. 1 year; 200 billion per gram; 91 billion per gram; 84 billion per gram; 170 billion per gram.
11. Jarrow Formula; Jarro-Dophilus (six strain capsules); Lot No. 3614 Exp. 12/2001; 3.36 billion cfu/capsule; Deibel only reported the total probiotic count of 2.4 billion per capsule.
12. Nature's Way; Primadophilus (2 strain, capsules); Lot No. 921033 Exp. 03/2002; 2.9 billion cfu per capsule; 3.5 billion/capsule; No Bifidobacteria; 3.5 billion pe capsule.
14. CAG Functional Foods, Culturelle (singles strain, capsules); Lot No. 3810J9 Exp. 04/01; 20 billion cfu per capsule; 4.2 billion/capsule; No Bifidobacteria; 4.2 billion/capsule.
15. Needs; Flora Biotic 14 (14 strain, capsules); Lot No. 357 Exp. 06/2001; 15 billion cfu per capsule; 4.1 billion/capsule; 8.9 billion/capsule; 13 billion per capsule.
16. Country Life; Power Dophilus (4 strain, capsules); Lot No. COAO29F Exp. 07/01; 4 billion cfu/capsule; 1.2 billion/capsule; No Bifidobacteria; 1.2 billion per capsule.
The first two tested are SBO's, not straight probiotics. It seems that most companies performed very well. Please note that there can be 10-20% error in the results.
These tests were perfomed by Brian Sims, Deibel Laboratories, 103 S. Second Street, Madison, WI 53704, Tel. (608) 241-1177, Fax. (608) 241-2252.
Custom Probiotics or myself are not responsible in any way regarding these results.
If you want to verify any other probiotic supplement, please contact Deibel or any other lab that is experienced in probiotic testing.
In my opinion, the effectiveness of any probiotic supplement depends on the following: potency or probiotic count; number and type of strains; survivability through the acidic stomach and through the digestive system.
Another way of enhancing the effectiveness of probiotics is to use Prebiotics. I would not suggest using FOS since it is fructose based and can feed Candida. I would suggest instead taking 100% whey protein, with no lactose, sugar, carbohydrate or any flavor. Lactoferrin is another potent prebiotics. Whey and lactoferrin also enhance the immune system the lack of which is THE reason why we have Candida overgrowth in the first place. Whey protein and Lactoferrin are easy to digest and assimilate, and will feed our body cells for regenration. Our body consists of 55% water, 20% protein, 15% fat, 5% minerlas, 2% carbohydrates and 1% vitamins. Hence the importance of proteins, especially if you are on a vegetarian diet.
We will come up with Whey Protein and Lactoferrin in 10 days.
You can research info on lactoferrin and whey protein by going to Pub Med www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov:80 There is a lot of research and clinical studies on lactoferrin. Lactoferrin represents 10% of the protein in mother's milk and 1-2% in cows milk. It has antibacterial, antiviral and antifungal properties; it prevents growth of pathogenic organisms in the gut; it stimulates the immune system, it controls cell or tissue damage, regulates iron binding and promotes growth of beneficial bacteria in the intestines.
Nothing in this document should be construed as medical advice. I am just sharing the results of my personal experience in having candida overgrowth disorder.
Posted by Tincup (Member # 5829) on :
Thanks Kayda..
Just in time for me to look and see what I might do for myself!
Appreciate the information!
Posted by micul (Member # 6314) on :
I tried Custom Probiotics a year ago. My first order worked great, but the next 2 orders after that were dead. I should have demanded a refund, but I just stopped using their product. I don't trust any of them anymore as I am finding quite a bit of the different brands to be dead. I'm going to test them all for each new batch that I get until I feel confident in the consistent quality. This comes after a warning from a pharmacyst that a lot of the probiotics on the market are dead. He was right.
Posted by Kayda (Member # 10565) on :
Micul,
I think you should call and speak to Harry. He seems like a reasonable guy, but more importantly he cares about his product. Maybe what you got was a bad batch or something.
I used to order probios from Natren. Natren consistently underfilled my bottles. I called them and told them. They replaced the ones that were missing. These things are so expensive ($1 per capsule).
I had a bottle of Custom Probiotics in my refrig for about a year. I just took four capsules out and used them to make yogurt. They worked great. They worked better than Yogurtmet.
Kayda
Posted by kelmo (Member # 8797) on :
My LLMD sells colostrum in his office. He doesn't "sell" many things, he has a small cabinet in the waiting room with a couple of items.
Somehow using cattle products doesn't seem safe. There are a lot of hormones injected into cattle. Wouldn't that come through the milk?
Is whey an animal product?
Sorry for my ignorance...I just never gave this thought, and would like to look into it.
Kelly
Posted by dguy (Member # 8979) on :
quote:Originally posted by Kayda: In my opinion, the effectiveness of any probiotic supplement depends on the following: potency or probiotic count; number and type of strains; survivability through the acidic stomach and through the digestive system.
Such an extensive study, and they did not compare the delivery effectiveness of enteric vs. non-enteric coated varieties?
Enteric coating helps survivability, that is, getting the good bacteria into the gut.
I wasted a lot of $ on non-enteric coated probiotics before discovering how much more beneficial the kind in enteric coated capsules was for me. YMMV
Posted by bigmamma (Member # 7181) on :
Please note the information posted was from the year 2000.
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