Hi again, Something I hadn't found in my research that the doctor said is a sign of Babesia is capillary angiomas. He found these little red/pinkish dots on my arms and back. They are about the size of the period at the end of this sentence.
He said they are found on a lot of people but he has discovered that people with Babesia are more prone to have these. Has anyone else had Babs dxed by having these? Do any of you have these? Interesting new thing to me.
Thanks!
Posted by Aniek (Member # 5374) on :
I have some of those, but never heard that name for 'em. I started noticing a slight increase before I was diagnosed. I was in grad school, and the nurse there said it was just burst capillaries.
They did get worse when I was on artemisinin, which would suggest a babesia herx. Since babesia invades the red blood cells, it makes sense to my non-scientific mind that this could be a symptom.
Posted by AliG (Member # 9734) on :
I had noticed them on my legs while Txing Babs the first time. The second round I think LLMD asked if I had seen any more of them.
I think he may have been including them in assessing Tx. I can't recall whether I had noticed them before Tx was started. I did have IGG pos Babs test.
I did have strange little red dots all over my abdomen early on, now that I think of it. My PCP said it didn't look like allergy, but she had no clue what they were. Posted by Lymetoo (Member # 743) on :
I have them and had Babs. I think they are also referred to as petachaie /// OK .. someone help me with the spelling here!! Posted by lpkayak (Member # 5230) on :
yes lymetoo---but i can't fix the spelling.
we knew this a long time ago-but regular dermatologists don't agree.
Posted by Melanie Reber (Member # 3707) on :
Good evening Sickandtired,
Yes, Cherry Angiomas have been described as a definite symptom of Babesia. At least according to my current LLMD and from another that I have heard of too.
Mine range in size from small dots to larger sized freckles and are mostly on my arms and trunk. They come and go but have been present on me for a very long time.
One interesting thought I had is that my mother also has these, and also has many concurring symptoms of "unknown" origin that I also experience. (we know Babs is congenitial)
I have been trying to breach the idea of TBDs with her carefully, and she has become receptive to at least testing (that took an hour long conversation alone) and learning about it.
If you do a search on this skin phenomenon, the etiology is unknown...but the skin condition appears to be rather common.
Sort of makes one wonder about the true prevalence of Babs.
My best, Melanie
Posted by mag (Member # 8920) on :
hi there,
this was the first thing my llmd looked for - as well as the imbalance ( can not walk straight with my eyes closed)
it makes sense babesia can alter the red blood cells and we can bleed easily - in various ways
mags
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Posted by Truthfinder (Member # 8512) on :
Interesting - I had not heard about this.
I wish we had some more detailed symptom lists of Babs and Bart than what I've found in the Newbie links. I always hear about so many ADDITIONAL symptoms on the board here.
I know I've seen some of these on me before.... I'll have to check. Never tested for Babs.
Tracy
Posted by AliG (Member # 9734) on :
quote:Originally posted by Lymetoo: OK .. someone help me with the spelling here!!
Petechiae (puh-TEE-key-eye) are tiny little broken capillary blood vessels. Everyone has had them.
A hard bout of coughing or vomiting can cause facial petechiae, especially around the eyes. These mean nothing. Newborns often have facial petechiae from the tight squeeze through the cervix.
Thus petechiae are fairly common and in general of no concern.
Petechiae that appear during illness, especially illness with fever, can be a different story.
Because the presence of bacteria in the bloodstream (classically Meningococcus, the causative agent of "spinal meningitis") can be heralded by the appearance of petechiae, these little marks are searched for during the skin examination of a sick child.
If present, they could be be the heralds of very dangerous sepsis, even in a child who does not look all that ill.
Oh, look at this one:
Petechia From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (Redirected from Petechiae) Jump to: navigation, search
minor PetechiaName of Symptom/Sign: Petechia Classifications and external resources ICD-10 R23.3 ICD-9 782.7 A petechia (IPA pronunciation: [pə'tiki.ə]), plural petechiae (IPA pronunciation: [pə'tiki.aɪ]) is a small red or purple spot on the body, caused by a minor hemorrhage (broken capillary blood vessels).
Forceful coughing or vomiting can cause facial petechiae, especially around the eyes. Newborns often have facial petechiae from the tight squeeze through the cervix. Thus petechiae are fairly common and in general of no concern.
Heavy lifting may lead to petechiae that resemble thin red lines on the shoulders. Petechiae are also often found in cases of manual or ligature strangulation.
Because petechiae are associated with shaken baby syndrome and various forms of strangulation, they are signs of concern in cases of suspected child abuse.
Petechiae are a sign of thrombocytopenia (low platelet counts), other disorders of coagulation.
If they appear during illness, especially illness with fever, they may be a sign of septicemia (blood-borne bacterial infection), especially of Meningococcus (a causative agent of meningitis). The presence of petechiae in a sick child is therefore an important warning sign.
Petechiae in adults should always be quickly investigated. They can be interpreted as Vasculitis, an inflammation of the blood vessels, which requires immediate treatment to prevent permanent damage.
Some malignancies can also cause petechiae to appear. In anyone over eighteen, petechiae should be investigated by a physician within a day or so to rule out the more dangerous conditions.
Dermatologists can be the most helpful specialists in these conditions, because they can more easily identify if the condition is petechiae or some similar looking but less worrisome rash.
I've had a circular patch of them on my chest since I was quite young. The kids in school always teased me that I had a "hickey"(sp). I wonder how long this thing REALLY goes back.
Posted by Aniek (Member # 5374) on :
If you have more than a few, it definitely should get checked out. I had a friend hospitalized in college because she had a rare illness marked by sudden onset of petichae.
Her mother recognized the symptoms, because she had the same thing years earlier. I'm not sure of the illness, but it was "fixed" after a few days in the hospital. She never had problems again.
Posted by Lymetoo (Member # 743) on :
Thanks Ali! I was close! [I don't think "close" counts in spelling! ]
Posted by treepatrol (Member # 4117) on :
I just got Rash / Petechiae on both legs around the front of ankles? Treating for lyme/babesiosis.
I use to get little itsybitsy red dots on and off. Also my ankels have itched on and off for years?
Posted by geniveve (Member # 8646) on :
i have them on torso, now am getting them on my lower legs.
my doc said they were common in "middle aged overweight white women."
arrrghhh...................
Posted by sizzled (Member # 1357) on :
All right, here's a glitch....
I've had them since my 20's. I THINK I got them from coughing from allergies. Small red dots on my torso....and I am NOT a white, overweight(then) woman!!!! Ha! Posted by northstar (Member # 7911) on :
my doc said they were common in "middle aged overweight white women."
uh huh !
And they come and go, so age and weight and gender must come and go?
We need a Medical Mythbusters !
Northstar
Posted by jif (Member # 9215) on :
all the lyme symptoms are common in white middle aged overweight (hysterical but they don't tell you that) women
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