I have not seen a recent post regarding crying as a possible herx. The past 3-4 days have been full of sadness towards self and lots of crying...it feels like it is coming from a core within....it is an activity which becomes very physical involving my entire body.
I started Tindamax (as a cyst buster to the IV Rocephin) a couple of weeks ago and feel other physical Herxing...numbness and soreness in specific areas.
Please share similar experiences. Much thanks.
Posted by 5dana8 (Member # 7935) on :
Hi Lalalu
The cyst busters like flagel & tinnie made me very emotional. Felt like I was on an emotional roller coaster. Lots of depression & crying.
This will pass in time & I think you should call your doc & let him know how you feel.
Are you doing anything for detox?
I am so sorry you have to go threw this right now but remember its the ketes dying in your brain causing a herx reaction and this too shall pass
I cried at almost everything on tv when on Flagyl. I was just explaining it to my boyfriend the other day. All that was needed was the "serious" music to start playing, and the tears would roll.
Just make sure that you are cognizant this might be a herx. If you start getting really depressed or having suicidal thoughts, contact a medical professional immediately.
Posted by lalalu (Member # 10854) on :
5dana8,
Detoxing is high on my list of priorities. I take sarsaparilla, engystol and beta-sitosterol as recommended by my LLMD.
I also juice every other day (cilantro/ginger/ spinach/carrot). I also take charcoal and do coffee enemas a few times a week.
Thanks so much for your response.
Lalalu
Posted by Sojourner (Member # 9424) on :
Yup, inappropriate emotional responses have been a big part of my husband's response to treatment.
Both crying and laughing (actually some pretty embarrassing incidents!)
I don't know if this is waning now because of the type of meds he is on right now,or if he is just over that kind of herx.
Ok, so I DO NOT recommend you rent "Terms of Endearment" any time soon. Always makes me cry like a baby--and I'm not even a Lymie
Hope this passes for you.
Posted by ponytail (Member # 36) on :
Me too ... cried ... emotional basket case ... Worse during IV treatments and during Flagyl runs!
I had to retire finally due to my cognitive decline and the inability to participate in the world socially!
That was 3 years ago ... I'm on orals now and have been since then. I have made some progress and notice HUGE improvement w/ the crying and emotional symptoms!
It was awful tho when I was still trying to work and had to be the "boss"!
Take care ... you will get thru it ... Sherry
Posted by Lymetoo (Member # 743) on :
Hi ponytail! Long time no see!!
Yep, flagyl made me VERY depressed. Crying was really in style then!! Posted by stella marie (Member # 7216) on :
lalalu.....
Fo me...Tindamax = emotional fruitcake .
Bo-hoo over most anything, very sad and I didn't care to interact w/ others.
Within 1 day after stopped usage, back to normal self.
Yep lalalu, Tindamax can make you lulu.
Just my experience, Stella Marie
Posted by Allie (Member # 10778) on :
OK. Now I'm freaking. I'm in my 5th day of Tini (tindamax) -- started on Sat (500 mg 3x day). A high dose. I've been abx for about 15 mos now and am feeling much better in general, but still have neuro probs. (I'm also on mino and fluconazole).
AFter now many days of tini did you start crying and getting depressed? When is it going to hit me?
Thank goodness for my lexapro and clonazepam...
Allie
Posted by humanbeing (Member # 8572) on :
Up for Katcon...she's having these spells with tini right now too I feel so awful about this disease...
Posted by NoVAChick (Member # 9814) on :
Flagyl and bicillin made me have horrible depression/crying herxes. I do not know of anything to help with the crying...I just curl up on the couch until it passes. It is AWFUL.
I know some people have success being on antidepressants. To date, I have not found one that helps me so I just don't take any.
The bicillin is finally starting to help and make a tremendous difference. Hang in there, you will get better.
Posted by humanbeing (Member # 8572) on :
up
Posted by Katcon (Member # 9812) on :
They should have you a box of tissues with the script for tindimax.
I do notice it takes pressure away from my eyes.
It has made me very emotional at times, and all I want to do is stay home.
Herxing is worse I think.
Posted by Cheryll (Member # 10063) on :
When I was on Flagyl, I cried a lot. My poor family never knew what would set me off. It was kind of a relief actually. It's hard for me to cry unless I am watching a sad movie. I had been, like you all, through so much and feeling so much anxiety. To cry was to let it all out finally.
I didn't realize then that it was all the cyst busters that did that. I have been thinking it might be necessary to start that going again, and was hoping a different one would help me avoid that.
Posted by meg (Member # 22) on :
I've stated my problems with flagyl before, they were intense. Deeply emotional and scary.
That's something lots of people don't know about the cyst busters, you can be suicidal.
Recognizing that these emotions can happen are what will get you thru it IMHO. Rally your friends and family and let them know you will be emotional so they can keep an eye on you Posted by Lymetoo (Member # 743) on :
quote:Originally posted by Allie: OK. Now I'm freaking. I'm in my 5th day of Tini (tindamax) -- started on Sat (500 mg 3x day). A high dose.
That's VERY high to start out with. I'd be scared to death to take that much. Sorry if this is worrying for you....but please go easy.
Posted by Allie (Member # 10778) on :
Hi Lymetoo and everyone, Thank you for the kind words and words of caution. I certainly take them to heart!
So far, day 10, I'm surviving the 1500 mg/day of tindamax. I've been on high dose combo abx for about 18 months.
Three months ago I just took fluconazole (200 mg/day) and last month I took fluconazole (200 mg/day) and mino (200 mg/day). I could barely function on these two protocols, but I think it got me over some sort of hump (cd57 went from its stable range of 20-30 to 105!).
Now I'm on fluconazole (200 mg/day), mino (200 mg/day) and the 1500 mg/day of tini. I don't feel as badly as I did the first month on fluc. alone.
So, maybe, just maybe, I'm finally starting to make headway - I am dying for the cronic fatigue to lift, though.
I really like this discussion group. Thank you!
Allie
Posted by Marnie (Member # 773) on :
You are actually releasing cortisol.
A good thing.
Flagyl works by keeping the blood alcohol level higher. The idea is...to change Bb's cell wall and thus prevent your reaction to the cell wall.
Alcohol alters proteins. Bb's cell wall is lipoproteins.
Increased alcohol raises cortisol. This is a double-edge sword. In some respects it is good, in other ways it is not.
With high cortisol (too much stress), this triggers crying.
Do you know how when people drink too much alcohol, they get happy, but then sad...and cry?
Same thing is happening.
Here are some quick "cut and pasted" sentences from the internet:
There are times when life is cruel, and our load is so heavy, that we just want to sit and cry. That's perfectly okay.
Crying helps to wash away toxic chemicals and hormones built up during stress, which in turn improves mood. It's healthy to cry once in a while.
Things you can do to support yourself in the healing process: Be gentle with yourself. Make time to do things that offer you comfort.
Exercise - it helps the body remove cortisol and endogenous opioids & produces other chemicals that help the body re-establish an inner balance.
Give yourself & others permission to cry - studies have shown that crying helps remove cortisol and endogenous opioids.
Drink plenty of water - it helps dilute the cortisol and endogenous opioids.
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