O.K. , does someone know the scoop on this therapy--anyone ahd experiences with it?
jif
Posted by clairenotes (Member # 10392) on :
Hi Jif,
I have not done any IV ozone therapy, but I did drink ozonated water for several days once and experienced a very strong herx response. Also, the infection shifted from one location to another (my head).
I didn't know I was dealing with LD at the time, so I wasn't prepared for the response I received. Also, it has been suggested that other microbes may have been activated by the ozonated water. In other words, some were killed, some were invigorated. I am just not sure.
Anyway, sorry I don't have better news to offer. Perhaps you situation is different, or the ozone or method of delivery is different that might make it more safe. Also, I did do better with ozonated oils for some reason.
Claire
Posted by jif (Member # 9215) on :
I'm amazed there haven't been more replies.....perhaps tis not commonly used at all?!
Posted by pq (Member # 6886) on :
Ozone SAUNAS (head sticks out...can NOT breathe ozone! HUGE DIFFERENCE) have been discussed here...briefly...unfortunately. They did NOT report a "herx" response.
O3 is VERY powerful. Trivalent. The botulism anti-toxin is also trivalent.
We know Bb has a "spot" for iron and uses manganese.
"We provide superior ozone systems that remove iron, sulfur, manganese, bacteria, taste and odor. "
"We tested the hypothesis that oxidative stress and biological effect after ozone (O3) exposure are dependent on changes in iron homeostasis.
After O3 exposure, healthy volunteers demonstrated increased lavage concentrations of iron, transferrin, lactoferrin, and ferritin.
In normal rats, alterations of iron metabolism after O3 exposure were immediate and preceded the inflammatory influx.
To test for participation of this disruption in iron homeostasis in lung injury following O3 inhalation, we exposed Belgrade rats, which are functionally deficient in divalent metal transporter 1 (DMT1) as a means of iron uptake, and controls to O3.
Iron homeostasis was disrupted to a greater extent and the extent of injury was greater in Belgrade rats than in control rats.
Nonheme iron and ferritin concentrations were higher in human bronchial epithelial (HBE) cells exposed to O3 than in HBE cells exposed to filtered air.
***Aldehyde generation*** and IL-8 release by the HBE cells was also elevated following O3 exposure.
Human embryonic kidney (HEK 293) cells with elevated expression of a DMT1 construct were exposed to filtered air and O3.
With exposure to O3, elevated DMT1 expression diminished oxidative stress (i.e., aldehyde generation) and IL-8 release.
We conclude that iron participates critically in the oxidative stress and biological effects after O3 exposure.
We KNOW Bb is using transferrin...which TRANSPORTS iron. Lactoferrin binds iron. Lactoferrin is being used now to treat HIV and even cancer (with Tamoxifen).
Complicated, isn't it? I have lots of files on ozone, if interested. I've personally done the sauna as an experiment. I don't have lyme, a family member does.
The white towels at my feet were slightly "tan/brown" as supposedly toxins left my body.
Posted by Foggy (Member # 1584) on :
I did the ultra-violet blood treatment. Total waste of $. LLMD subsequently said that bb can also mobilize in the tissue, thus this treatment was dubious in his mind.
Posted by seibertneurolyme (Member # 6416) on :
I have posted on hubby's experiences with both treatments before. Sorry but I don't have time to do a search for my other posts right now.
Bea Seibert
Posted by Neil M Martin (Member # 2357) on :
Ozone and IVBI seemed to provide brief/slight benefits but not as effective as antibiotics etc.
Posted by lalalu (Member # 10854) on :
I did 12 sessions of UVBI. I herxed regularly. I was also aiming at other frequencies...for HHV6, HV1 and HV2. I recently tested negative for HHV6 after being positive in 2005.
I did not think it was a waste of time.
Posted by Lymelighter (Member # 5310) on :
I had UVBI treatments. The only thing it irradiated was my wallet.
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