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Posted by Ruth Ruth (Member # 11059) on :
 
Anybody with experience with Cryptolepsis for treating Babesia?

I have been dealing with many of the Babesia symptoms ever since starting on Quina alternated with Noni a couple of months ago.

I'm not sure if I can back down out of this tree or not.

I'm trying to decide if I should add the Cryptolepsis.
 
Posted by Ruth Ruth (Member # 11059) on :
 
Here is some info from Lyme Matters
quote:
Cryptolepsis

Cryptolepsis is a shrub from the Asclepiadacea family. It has been used for hundreds of years
in the treatment of many serious illnesses. It has the following benefits: antiparasitic, antimalarial, antibacterial, antifungal. Human clinical trials have shown cryptolepsis to be very effective in the treatment of malaria. In fact, one of these trials showed this herb to clear malarial symptoms in a shorter time then its synthetic counterpart, chloroquine, and without the side-effects associated with that medication.

Taken Internally

Tea -- mix a teaspoon of cryptolepsis with 5 ounces of boiling water -- can be taken up to twice a day

Tincture -- Make a 1:5 ratio mixture in 60 percent alcohol -- use between 20 - 40 drops up to four times a day.

Capsule -- Take up to 3 capsules twice a day. Up to 20 capsules can be taken for acute conditions provided that you are under a homeopathic doctor's care.


Used Externally

Crush herb into a fine powder. It can be applied to an external bacterial or fungal infection. Apply up to four times per day.


*Caution -- While there are no warnings regarding this herb, people using it should be aware that they may have, or may develop an allergy to cryptolepsis. Should you develop a rash or experience any other odd symptoms while using this herb, discontinue use of it immediately.


 
Posted by SForsgren (Member # 7686) on :
 
I bought some that I use to test people with ART (autonomic response testing) with it. I have not taken it myself yet, but I might just do that ! [Smile] Take care
 
Posted by Ruth Ruth (Member # 11059) on :
 
The woodlandessense.com price quoted is $18 for 2 oz (12 teaspoons).

At 1/2 teaspoon x 3 per day = 8 day supply.

That can add up pretty fast.
 
Posted by seibertneurolyme (Member # 6416) on :
 
$45 for 5 ounces of tincture from Bear Creek Herbs which works out to one teaspoon 3 times per day for a 10 day supply -- dose suggested by Buhner.

Hubby did 10 days and has reordered another 10 day supply. Buhner says 10 - 30 days total on this herb.

Hubby is on quinine low dose which is only somewhat effective -- took the cryptolepsis and the quinine together -- think it helped some.

Bea Seibert
 
Posted by Ruth Ruth (Member # 11059) on :
 
Thanks Bea.

The price is $9 per oz either way, but I'm happy to hear that it seems to be doing some good.

May your house be joy-full.
 
Posted by SForsgren (Member # 7686) on :
 
When Mepro costs much over 100 dollars an ounce, I think this is an inexpensive option.
 
Posted by Ruth Ruth (Member # 11059) on :
 
Wow. I didn't know mepron was that pricey. How long will a 1 oz bottle of mepron last?

BTW, the LLMD told me yesterday that a patient has put daps of mepron on her cherry angioma and it got better. Interesting.

I wonder if cryptolepsis powder would work topically as well?
 
Posted by SForsgren (Member # 7686) on :
 
1 oz of Mepron lasts 3 days!
 
Posted by Ruth Ruth (Member # 11059) on :
 
New search tonight found this on cryptolepis: Hypoglycemic agent from cryptolepis
quote:
This invention pertains to the use of a hypoglycemic agent from Cryptolepis sp., including, but not limited to C. triangularis and C. sanguinolenta, and quindoline alkaloids contained therein, such as quindoline and cryptolepine, for the treatment of diabetes mellitus.
and
quote:
The present invention provides a method for the use of extracts from Cryptolepis sp. and compounds of the quindoline family of alkaloids such as quindoline, cryptolepine, etc., as well as pharmaceutically acceptable salts thereof, as hypoglycemic agents or as agents to lower triglyceride levels, particularly in diabetic subjects.
and
quote:
A report claimed that cryptolepine possessed hypotensive and antibacterial properties (Drugs Future, 7(7), 466 (1982). More detailed antimicrobial activities for alcoholic extracts of Cryptolepis sanguinolenta were described (Boakye-Yiadom, K. and Heman-Ackah, S. M., J. Pharm. Sci. 68, 1510 (1979)).
and
quote:
Cryptolepine has been described to have an effect on collagen-induced platelet aggregation and on the mobilization and metabolism of arachidonic acid in a rabbit model (Oyekan, A. O. and Ablordeppey, S. Y., Gen. Pharmacol. 24, 1285 (1993)). Cryptolepine's hypotensive and vasodilator mechanisms of action on perfused rat kidney were further described (Oyekan, A. O., J. Cardiovasc. Pharmacol., 23, 602 (1994)).
and
quote:
More recently, cryptolepine and related alkaloids were found to possess antimuscarinic activity at the M1, M2, and M3 receptors (Rauwald, H. W., Kober, N. C., Mutschler, E., and Lambrecht, G., Planta Medica, 58, 486 (1992)).

antimuscarinic ... like hydroxyzine is antimuscarinic?
 
Posted by Ruth Ruth (Member # 11059) on :
 
? up ?
 
Posted by clpgotlyme (Member # 7875) on :
 
RuthRuth, Do you know who carries the capsules? I cant take alcohol tinctures as they cause migraines.
Thanks.
Cindy
 
Posted by valymemom (Member # 7076) on :
 
I would like to know that, also?
 
Posted by Ruth Ruth (Member # 11059) on :
 
I'm sorry, but a quick search a couple of weeks ago didn't show anyone online carrying the whole herb.

Maybe a good place to start would be the herbal companies that are making the tinctures.

They have to get it from somewhere!
 
Posted by seibertneurolyme (Member # 6416) on :
 
Bear Creek Herbs just informed hubby that they are all out of the cryptolepsis tincture -- trying to order more of the herb from Africa but don't know when they will have a new supply.

Hubby is having major babesia problems. The other things that may be helping are spilanthes tincture -- I mix this with prickly ash tincture and gotu kola tincture.

I use this when hubby has the sweats and it seems to stop the sweating and tremors and dry heaves within a few minutes -- have been using this 4 - 7 times daily for the last 3 days -- hubby is off quinine (on 10 day rotation cycle) and it is really starting to look like his babs has become resistant to the quinine.

I am using 2 droppers of spilanthes and 1 dropper of each of the other 2 herbs for each dose.

spilanthes -- this is supposed to kill parasites in the bloodstream

prickly ash -- this is supposed to help with blood circulation

gotu kola -- this is supposed to help keep the platelets from sticking together -- saw a reference using the gotu kola and prickly ash combo to prevent crisis from sickle cell anemia

Both prickly ash and spilanthes make your tongue tingle -- this sensation will become less as you get used to the herbs

Herb Pharm makes an alcohol free gotu kola tincture. Nature's Answer makes a low alcohol (12 - 15%) prickly ash tincture. The spilanthes tincture I have now is from Herb Pharm and is 36 - 46% alcohol.

Am also using the boneset and redroot tinctures.

Will know within a week or so how things are going as hubby is now running temps and has elevated white blood cell count. Something is going to have to happen quickly.

This is not medical advice -- just hubby's experiences.

Bea Seibert

[ 10. May 2007, 10:12 PM: Message edited by: seibertneurolyme ]
 
Posted by Ruth Ruth (Member # 11059) on :
 
yikes! that sounds serious.

And to have the source dry up. I was wondering about the limited supply issues.

I don't know if you are on any of the nutramedix antimicrobials, but the banderol seems to list good effects.

Also, the raintree herbals are another option if you need something else to try.

Just some thoughts based on my own experience too.
 
Posted by Ruth Ruth (Member # 11059) on :
 
Still wondering... Anybody else with experience using Cryptolepsis for treating Babesia?
 
Posted by hardynaka (Member # 8099) on :
 
Ruth, there's a lady in Buhner's forum using it, but she's not posting much lately. Her name is Joyce. it seems she's having good experience with it.

Selma
 
Posted by Ruth Ruth (Member # 11059) on :
 
Thanks Selma.

Since using cryptolepsis is such a new idea and it takes many people a long time to heal from this infection, I guess I shouldn't be surprised at the lack of response.

I think I remember your healing came relatively easily after dealing with the other issues first.
 
Posted by Healing in Santa Cruz (Member # 7798) on :
 
Hi Ruth, This is Joyce the one taking Cryptolepsis. I am on my 3rd go round of it. I did at first take the suggested amount and it kicked my butt. I am now doing half the dose and its much more gentle. Snnce Bear Creek is out of it I am getting it from Woodland Essence 315-845-1515 . Buhner recommends Cryptolepsis if Art does not work. Hi Selma, I am glad to be back on line after 4 mo. Please E-mail me at my yahoo address. I lost all my addys. Blessings All Joyce
 
Posted by Healing in Santa Cruz (Member # 7798) on :
 
Hi Ruth, This is Joyce the one taking Cryptolepsis. I am on my 3rd go round of it. I did at first take the suggested amount and it kicked my butt. I am now doing half the dose and its much more gentle. Snnce Bear Creek is out of it I am getting it from Woodland Essence 315-845-1515 . Buhner recommends Cryptolepsis if Art does not work. Hi Selma, I am glad to be back on line after 4 mo. Please E-mail me at my yahoo address. I lost all my addys. Blessings All Joyce
 


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