I am really concerned about our children and the sudden increase in autism within the past 10 years.
Does anybody think this could be lyme related?
Or is it all from our toxic environment?
Posted by Lymetoo (Member # 743) on :
I think some of the cases are Lyme related. Also VACCINES filled with mercury!!
Posted by Geneal (Member # 10375) on :
I once treated a child who was one of four children in a house that were autistic.
Only one child was not.
Mother was a RN...
Refused all immunizations for 3 children who ended up being dx. as autistic..
Who knows for sure..
The data referencing the dramatic increase of occurence sure is scary.
Hugs,
Geneal
Posted by savebabe (Member # 9847) on :
Recently I heard that a medication taken during pregnancy to prevent early births was a link.
This is another area that needs plenty of research.
Posted by tsmith (Member # 11635) on :
My son (2 yrs.) has Down Syndrome. With Down Syndrome, comes a host of potential health problems and other behaviors. There is a MUCH higher risk of Autism in kids with Down Syndrome. Needless to say, I've done A LOT of research.
My son is my life, and I want to cover all bases.
Autism is IMO, most definately enviromental. No doubt about it. Vaccines are the main culprit, and I'd bet a million dollars on it.
Consider, ALL medications have side effects. Most medicines do more harm than good. Just think of all the toxic junk floating around.
Take non stick cookware...Read your instructions, and it tells you it could kill a bird or small animal just from the fumes it emits...
So...If we cook with it every single day, surely we are affected.
Consider aspartame...Which turns to formaldahyde (sp?)
Consider that even a stick of deodarant is filled with aluminum...
There are so many scary things out there.... It's unbelievable. There is no doubt in my mind that the vaccines have a HUGE part in it.
It makes my stomach turn.
Posted by starfish1995 (Member # 11809) on :
Well there is a long answer and a short answer to this question. Kathy Blanco of autim-lyme group would be the best for the long answer.
But the short answer could be summed up as follows:
Autism happens when a genetic predisposition to an envionmental and/or infectious event occurs.
Not just genetics, but genetics coupled with the insult(s).
Lyme is certainly a possible insult.
Beth
Posted by tsmith (Member # 11635) on :
Yeah, what she said. LOL
Isn't it scary? It really is. I'm a Music therapist, and I've seen kids go from being completely fine one day, and over the course of a summer be completely lost...
I know this may sound weird, but after working with/ being around so many kids with Autism, as much sadness as it can bring them and a parent...
As horrible as it can be, and as much as we want this epidemic to stop... There really is a beauty in watching a child with Autism.
I watch them spin on swings...And while they seem lost, I'm convinced their minds are so much more sensitive than ours.
I know it sounds weird, and probably tree huggy, LOL....Or maybe it's because I've redefined my sense of "normal" since having my son, (Most parents with a child like mine does)....
But it really is something. It's the most peculiar thing, because you know they are "there" they just can't reach us.
Posted by lalalu (Member # 10854) on :
On a recent teleconference given by Nurse A from Dr. K's office, she stated that ALL their autism patients have Lyme.
Posted by luvs2ride (Member # 8090) on :
My doctor was just talking with a group of us yesterday about the rise of autism. He mentioned a pregnant mother's toxic levels as the most likely culprit. He also mentioned the Hep B shot babies receive in the hospital.
He expanded on the toxic mom theory. We are all being poisoned by our food and our environment. If the mom has a high level of toxicity (he didn't mention what kind of toxicity but I have read lots about heavy metal toxicity in the pregnant Mom transfering to the unborn child). He says a baby and a tumor are both dividing cells. The difference between the baby and the tumor is that the dividing cells of a baby have a plan, that is a plan to become a baby. The tumor has no plan.
The body dumps the toxins into this dividing cell area and therefore, the baby gets a large dose of the mother's toxins.
He was on a roll talking to us and we were just nodding and listening intently. This man is healing so many of us from chronic illness. He is like E.F. Hutton. When he speaks, we listen.
He really got passionate when he spoke of how we are poisoning our children with the food they eat. Fruit snacks are nothing but toxic poison. If your child wants a fruit snack, give him fruit, not these fruit candy roll-ups etc, etc, etc. Think hard about what you and your children eat.
I have a grandson who is almost certainly autistic and therefore, I have become interested in the subject.
A client of ours is a nurse and she has an autistic son. I asked her what she thought was causing autism and she said something to do with premature births. She isn't sure what but she sees a lot of premature babies develop autism. Her baby was premature.
My grandson was premature.
If you are thinking of getting pregnant, please get tested for HM toxicity beforehand.
Luvs
Posted by duke77 (Member # 5051) on :
I am almost positive that autism is caused by a bacteria. More and more autistic children who get antibiotics for other reasons make improvements while on the meds. Whether or not it is Lyme that remains to be seen.
I do know that in 1980 you had a 1:10000 chance of having an autistic child. Today it is around 1:150. What has changed since 1980? Some say it is the mercury in vaccines. In 1980 the average child got about 8 vaccines. Today it is closer to 30. I have read they have been doing blind studies with children who never got vaccinated and the percentage of autism in the control group was almost the same as the children who got vaccines. I don't think it is the vaccines. They may have something to do with it mixed with the bacteria. Something I find interesting is that Lyme hit the news around the late seventies in Conneticut then spread from there to the rest of the country in the next few years. I know Lyme has been around for centuries but am thinking Plum Island had something to do with it.
Posted by CaliforniaLyme (Member # 7136) on :
With my daughter it was Lyme.
Posted by ByronSBell 2007 (Member # 11496) on :
Buy the book "Breaking the Viciuos Cycle" it has some stuff in there on autism and diet
Posted by GiGi (Member # 259) on :
During a recent 3-day Seminar on Autism Recovery, which was a practical resource-oriented workshop for concerned parents and practitioners, the following (roughly) was a part of the presentation.
The single underlying cause of autism ---
Autism is a new man-made condition - and thereby avoidable in the future
Occurrence and severity of autism is directly related to toxin exposure in a child with inadequate genes (those that code for detoxification enzymes, methylation, etc.)
Autism is not multifactorial: CNS-mercury plays the key single role in causing autism
Most biochemical, developmental, medical and behavioral findings in autism are secondary to mercury toxicity
(Joachim Mutter: Mercury and Autism: Accelerating Evidence. Institute for Environmental Medicine and Hospital Epidemiology, University Hospital Freigburg, Germany. E-mail: [email protected])
Three main sources of mercury toxicity:
1. Thimerosal (ethyl-mercury thiosalicilate) from vaccines, Rh-prevention (Rhogam), other medications
(autism and ASD is absent in the Amish community where children are not vaccinated. As soon as they do, they also become ill)
2. Environmental (Environmental mercury release, special education rates and autism disorder: an ecological study of Texas, F. Palamer, etal. Health and Place, Vol 12, Issue 2, June 2006, pp 206-209 "on average, for each 1000 lb of environmentally released mercury, there was ....a61% increase in the rate of autism. 1977-1990 increase in environmental Hg 3-5fold (UNEP, 2002). 1790-1990 increase of environmental Hg 20fold, in fish at least 1000 fold (Bender 2002, Mercury Policy Project, USA)
3. Mother - (2/3 of body burden passed on to child during gestation and breastfeeding). 70-80% of mother's Hg (mercury) burden from amalgam fillings (Stoz et al 1995: Hg in umbilical chord vein 0.2-5ng/ml. Jedrychowski et al 2005: Neurodevelopmental problems in children when Hg in chord blood over 0.8ng/ml)
Posted by duke77 (Member # 5051) on :
quote: (autism and ASD is absent in the Amish community where children are not vaccinated. As soon as they do, they also become ill)
This statement is way too vague to prove any link to vaccines. How do you explain all the children that have incredible improvements while on antibiotics? There are many other lifestyle decisions that most of America participates in and the Amish avoid. Couldn't we argue that it is because the autistic childs mother drank diet pepsi for 15 years. Maybe because she grew up eating McDonalds food. Maybe because she drove around in an automobile for twenty years breathing fumes. Maybe it was living down the street from the plastic factory. Or it could of been from living under high power lines. Do the amish do any of these things above? No, so you really can't say it is the vaccines.
Posted by treepatrol (Member # 4117) on :
quote:Originally posted by tsmith: My son (2 yrs.) has Down Syndrome.
Just inquiring did either of your parents have MS or Lupus or Alzheimers or psorisis,any of those 4???
You sons grandparents.
Posted by luvs2ride (Member # 8090) on :
So far I have not read any science relating it to bacteria.
Anybody got any to share?
Susan
Posted by ESG (Member # 4816) on :
I have an autistic son: it is not due to Lyme Disease, it is not due to mercury, and antibiotics make no difference.
There are plenty of autism forums on the internet. Lyme Disease is not THE cause of autism.
Edith
Posted by Marnie (Member # 773) on :
I'm kinda worried about fluoride. The "timing" seems to co-inside with the beginning of the increase in rates of autism.
A PhD says it is causing the "dumbing down" of Americans.
Translation: impacting acetylcholine.
PROTECTIVE ozone layer destroyed. Fossil fuels. Too much UVB getting thru -> mutations of pathogens.
Also, balance of Omega 3 and 6s is off in our diets. Too many 6s...short chains.
Then there's the stress today...cortisol.
Not good in ANY society.
If pg...look very very closely at Zofran to stop N/V...don't.
Neurotoxin. K levels go up. Good bye to 5HT3 receptors = kids who have trouble sleeping, eating disorders, anger...
Tryptophan-> niacin and thiamine problems.
Personal knowledge...but try to PROVE it...!
We're going a good job of beating up Mother Nature.
Is there time for her to heal?
Posted by CaliforniaLyme (Member # 7136) on :
I agree btw that there are MANY triggers/causes of an autism presentation, but I personally believe Lyme is underdiagnosed in that regard.
I think there are many causes.
Posted by tsmith (Member # 11635) on :
TreePatrol-
Nope, not to my knowledge. My great grandparents BOTH had Alzheimer's though. I always watch out for it in my Grandmother.
Is there a correlation with Down Syndrome and the things you mentioned? I am always interested in hearing new evidence, research, etc...
I do know that the genetics between Alzheimer's and Down Syndrome are almost identical. Not to mention, many people with Down Syndrome are likely to develop Alzheimer's as well. It's sucky.
Dunno. I think despite research, fate is the one responsible for making my son the way he is. Fate was smiling down on me, though when my son came into my life. Posted by ESG (Member # 4816) on :
Re. fluoride: we have well water (which has been tested more than once) and I never allowed my children to be given those fluoride drops.
ESG
Posted by ks mom (Member # 11626) on :
Another factor could be low level radiation.
cell phones, corless phones, computers.
combine that with the vaccines,toxicity in general.
I mention low level radiation because thats something thing that has increased dramatically over the last 10-15 years.
ks mom
Posted by duke77 (Member # 5051) on :
A few previous posters mentioned Fluoride. Fluoride was discovered to prevent tooth decay by Palmolive Colgate in the mid 50's. So it was used widespread since then. The Autism rates have only jumped considerably since the mid 80's. If it was fluoride why haven't we had the large number of autistic children since the fifties? You have to look for something that has changed or only been around since the mid 80's.
Posted by just don (Member # 1129) on :
I vote it must be connected to all the pop we drink today. The diet pop being the worst. before the 80's it was unthinkable to drink this much pop.
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