I just found out I've got adrenal fatigue. My Cortisol is depressed in morning and late afternoon/early evening and it's elevated late night.
My LLMD has me taking Adreset adrenal support in the morning and Seriphos at bed. Any experience with these?
Adreset has Cordyceps Mycelium Extract, Asian Ginseng Root and Rhodiola Root.
Seriphos is Phosphyorylate Serine.
Posted by valbeth (Member # 12715) on :
Not yet, but I've decided on my own to add Seriphos. How are you feeling? I will let you know how I do.
Posted by pamyla (Member # 8575) on :
I've taken both of these - maybe we see the same doctor Seriphos I take at night and it helps me to get to sleep. I also take modicare and gaba at night, though, so it's hard to tell specifically what effect just the seriphos is having. The adreset I took previously and I didn't really like that one - made me feel kind of wired.
good luck, Pam
Posted by Jill E. (Member # 9121) on :
My cortisol pattern is the same as yours. At the moment I am just taking Phosphatydl Serine at night to help blunt the cortisol, because I'm thinking that the elevated cortisol is worsening my horrible nighttime myoclonus.
I haven't done anything yet to boost the morning cortisol. A nutritionist recommended an adrenal herbal blend, but I'm on Rifampin and that interacts with so much that I'm worried.
Jill
Posted by Jill E. (Member # 9121) on :
Hi again,
I just looked up Seriphos and it does look better than the regular PS I have.
My question is at what time during the day or night were you instructed to take it to blunt the nighttime elevated cortisol?
My nutritionist told me to take PS at night. But I just looked up Seriphos on the Life Extension website and it recommends taking it in the morning and at lunch as follows:
NOTE: Seriphos works with the pineal gland. Take two in the morning and two at lunch time before meals for better sleep at nighttime. This mimics the cortisol "curve".
Pam posted that she takes it at night, which makes sense to me.
Thanks for your help - and please let us know how your protocol works for you.
Jill
Posted by pamyla (Member # 8575) on :
Hi all, my doctor didn't give me a specific time to take the seriphos - the instructions were just to take it before bed on an empty stomach. I typically take it about 30 min before I go to sleep. That's interesting that the web site recommends differently. Maybe those recommendations are for someone with a normal cortisol pattern and wouldn't apply to us?
In the morning I've been taking Cytozyme AD, which I really like.
Posted by shoney (Member # 9925) on :
I have the opposite problem-my cortisol levels are ok, but my DHEA is really high in the morning-anyone have this problem-any suggestions?
Posted by Jill E. (Member # 9121) on :
Thanks Pam for the clarification of when you take it. Before bedtime makes more sense to me. That's when I will continue to take my PS (I will use up what I have, then switch to Seriphos).
Jill
Posted by Aniek (Member # 5374) on :
I haven't started this yet, because it's in a waiting list. I just started acupuncture on Friday, Zanaflex on Saturday, and I start back on abx this week.
I was told to take the Seriphos at bed, that's the full instructions I got. I'm meeting with my environmental med. doctor on August 13, and I'm not starting the adrenal support until I get his input.
Posted by Lymetoo (Member # 743) on :
Speaking of which....Are any of the blood tests for cortisol levels accurate?
Posted by Aniek (Member # 5374) on :
I did the saliva throughout the day. I'm supposed to do a fasting blood test too, but I keep waking up too late to hit the lab before work. Perhaps because my cortisol levels are too low...
Posted by listenswithcare (Member # 10719) on :
My doctor had me take Phosphatidylserine at night to help me come down from the high cortisol (I seem to have the same pattern you did/do). Low in morning, even lower at noon and then higher by 4pm and still too high at night).
I don't think it helped at all. This seems to be a different product from the Seriphos? I'm confused.
I take cortef in the morning 5mg and 2.5 mg at noon.
I did the saliva cortisol test where you measure 4 times in the day. Never heard of using a blood test for it.
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Seriphos I take at night and it helps me to get to sleep. I also take modicare and gaba at night, though, so it's hard to tell specifically what effect just the seriphos is having. The adreset I took previously and I didn't really like that one - made me feel kind of wired.