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Posted by stiner (Member # 10312) on :

Hi, I had some tests done for bloodclotting that my LLMD recommended. My LLMD sent me a copy of the results along with a note to the effect that I "might want to consider Heparin" treatment.

I did some searches on the forum and read some of the posts on Heparin, but would still appreciate some input from folks.

Here were my results of the test which were done by a lab called HEMEX:

Fibrinogen: 321 (reference 180-310 mg/dl)
Fragment 1 +2: 426 (reference 80-315 pmol/L)
Thrombin/Antithrombin (T/AT): 4.2 (reference 1-4.1 ug/l)

There was another one called Soluble Fibrin Monomer that they couldn't do because the "reagent was unavailable".

Obviously, my results were all "High" and outside of the normal reference range.

But what does this mean? I don't know enough to know whether I should be mildly concerned or totally freaked out! (ignorance can be bliss I guess!)

Can anyone help? Thanks! [Smile]

Posted by Tincup (Member # 5829) on :

All my "x's" live in Texas.

[Big Grin]

So, I see your blood is almost as thick as my head. HA! I'd say your head but you might not find me funny at all. It happens.

Ok, I don't think you'll croak tomorrow with results like this.. but it is something to keep an eye on. I am going through the same thing right now as are a number of others.

I am NOT a doctor... but I'll share what I am doing... in case you might want to consider it and run it past YOUR health care professional.

I was not crazy about the heaprin thing.. or cumadin either. Rat poison isn't really something I want to put in me if not needed.

I tried oils (Omega special blend that was recommended). It did nothing... and tests afterward showed I was actually worse. But on the up side... it did cost a lot.

[Roll Eyes]

I then decided to take Vitamin E and to drink more green tea. Both can thin the blood.

BINGO!

Next tests showed I was.. for the first time.. in the "normal" range. I also take Wobenzyme and Bromelain.

That helps inflammation and also.. with the oil I didn't feel better... but did with the Vitamin E, Wobenzyme, Bromelain protocol.

The thing is your blood can get sticky and thick due to the infections and inflammation. That makes it hard to send O2, nutrients, etc. to the places it needs to go. It also can be a risk factor for forming clots.

So don't freak but know it should be considered as something else you need to address when dealing with all the other fun things associated with Lyme and coinfections.

Feel better soon!

[Big Grin]

Posted by Lymetoo (Member # 743) on :

Heparin therapy is VERY safe and is WAY better than ignoring the hypercoagulation. It is not an emergency, but you will be able to get well more easily [and perhaps avoid a stroke or heart attack] if you get treated.

When your blood is thick, the nutrients [nor the medicine] can't get into your tissues and cells. Hard to get well that way.

I did the heparin for about 3 yrs, then switched to Bulouke and then to Rutozym. I will change to Vitalzym next month.

www.hemex.com for more information

Posted by Anneke (Member # 7939) on :

Lymetoo,

Do you have test results which verify that the supplement you are taking is actually working?

thanks

Posted by lymeout (Member # 8045) on :

My daughter had a serious clotting problem, protein S deficiency, which is supposed to be hereditary. Since neither her father or I have it, we are sure it is a result of chronic infection. We tried the hematologist's way of treating first - warfarin. Ran into all kinds of problems with interactions, etc. Finally tried the llmd's way - lovenox - a low molecular heparin injection. This did the trick. She now maintains on Boluoke. She has had a mediport in for two years and has had no problems. Her response to antibiotics increased markedly once her blood was thinned. Amazing!

Posted by stiner (Member # 10312) on :

Thanks y'all! I can always count on this forum and it's members to give me great info.

I will discuss this w/ my LLMD at my next appt. Y'all have given me some additional info so that I'll be better prepared to ask him some key Q's.

Tincup, I know what you mean about adding yet another chemical to our bodies! Seems like every time I do, I pay for it! And green tea is certainly something easy I can do! In fact, I think I'll go fix some right now! [lick]

Lymetoo, when you did the heparin, was it injections? I had noticed in some of the posts that there seems to be several options for administration of heparin (sprays, etc.). It's not really an "issue" for me - shots don't bother me, but I was just curious.

It's certainly logical that the abx would work better if your blood was thinner.

Thanks again!