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Posted by TS96 (Member # 14048) on :

I had Cat Scratch Fever when I was 5yo. Very high fevers, swollen glands under my arms that had to be excised and drained and stitched.

This is about the same time my mother said I started having odd aches and pains, extreme shyness.

Any connection?

I never had a bulleye rash that I recall.

Posted by beckyM (Member # 13944) on :

TS96...good question...

I had cat scratch disease about 8 years ago...however, I was pretty healthy after I got over it.

I never had any bullseye rashes either. Just other weird rashes....

Becky

Posted by Lymetoo (Member # 743) on :

Bartonella is actually cat scratch fever. However, if you got it from the bite of a tick or flea, it is worse than if you were actually scratched by a cat.

At least that is what I've been told here several years ago.

Have you recently been tested for bart?

Posted by CaliforniaLyme (Member # 7136) on :

YES- it is a frequent coinfection of
Lyme disease.

http://tech.research.usf.edu/cm/pdf/Zoonotics/Bartonella_AVMA.pdf

BEST PAPER ON BARTONELLA in humans!!!!
I highly rec'd reading it!!!!!!

Posted by TS96 (Member # 14048) on :

No I have not been tested for Bart yet. I haven't even seen the llmd yet. I just have the Positive WB from IgeneX.

I too read something a long time ago about Cat Scratch and Lyme but could never find it again, so I was just wondering about it today.

I'm 36 now. My mother tells me I turned into a totally different child when I got Cat Scratch at 5.

Another interesting question would be ... If I had antibodies for Cat Scratch would I automatically test positive for Bart?

Posted by CaliforniaLyme (Member # 7136) on :

There are MANY MANY strains of human pathogenic Bartonella and labs usually only test for ONE strain- B henselae-

There is TONS of B Elizabethae out there in humans!!!

See

http://groups.google.com/group/bartonella?lnk=srg

Posted by motownlyme (Member # 11485) on :

What treats Bart?

Posted by TS96 (Member # 14048) on :

Okay I'm totally confused now.

So is B henselae the bad one and B Elizabethae the not so serious one?????

I'm not understanding the verbage on the links, bad lyme brain.

I'll have my dh read it and try to explain it to me. [bonk]

Posted by Lymetoo (Member # 743) on :

quote:
Originally posted by motownlyme:
What treats Bart?

Cipro, Levaquin, hmmm... what else??

TS...I can't answer your question. They're probably all the same.

Posted by sixgoofykids (Member # 11141) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Lymetoo:

quote:
Originally posted by motownlyme:
What treats Bart?
Cipro, Levaquin, hmmm... what else??

Also Rifampin.

Posted by TS96 (Member # 14048) on :

Ok...
I did a search here and found a ton of cat scratch fever stuff.

Just for my sanity...

If one has had cat scratch fever will it automatically mean they will be positive for Bart?

And if so do you always have to treat it?

Thanks

Posted by disturbedme (Member # 12346) on :

I've always wondered if I got a positive from F's Lab for Bart (which I did), does that mean it's the tick-borne Bart or Cat Scratch? Does it mean a specific one from that lab?

Anyone know?

Posted by CaliforniaLyme (Member # 7136) on :

If you test negative for Bartonella Henselae it does not mean you don't have one of the many otehr human pathogenic strains!!!

Re Fry it is direct microscopy, right? So it would just be Bartonella- for Bartonella Fry may be best bet- because it would do any Bart organism not just 1 strain-

Posted by Cobweb (Member # 10053) on :

According to my LLMD Cat Scratch Fever and bartonella caused by a tick are NOT one and the same.