So Lyme isn't supposed to be contagious from one person to another but what about all the co-infections?
Posted by just don (Member # 1129) on :
I really doubt it!!
Things like babs and bart. def. not. Mycoplasma etc. ,,,I know LESS about.
BUT being in the SAME place,,,with same ticks carrying same stuff... everyone MAY contract same things or not depending on immune systems and body differences.
PLUS which tick bit who!! like --just don--
Posted by adamm (Member # 11910) on :
Well, if you believe Lida Mattman, Lyme can be airborne and
is one of the easiest disease to transmit from person to person
(I don't believe this, BTW.)
Posted by Clarissa (Member # 4715) on :
In my brain, I picture at least Lyme can be passed on sexually. It's the same spirochete as syphilis and we know that can be transmitted sexually.
There are just too many families that are all infected for me to believe that it cannot be.
Posted by Walnut (Member # 6585) on :
According to the CDC, bartonella can be transmitted from a scratch of a cat, or bite.
If bartonella is that easily transmitted between cats and humans, I would think that sexual transmission between humans would be possible.
RMSF can be transmitted from getting urine, blood and other fluids from infected wild animals. So why not from spouses?
Posted by B R H (Member # 12159) on :
Evidence is mounting that chronic illness, including Lyme disease, is caused by chronic infection with CWD (cell-wall-deficient) bacteria which IS communicable. This is not the same as being contagious. Transmission of these bacteria requires close contact and is most often seen within the family unit. You are not contagious and need not limit contacts with the general public.
You are not likely to pass CWD bacteria to others, especially if you are taking bacteriostatic antibiotics. Theoretically, the bacteria could be passed to someone else by close contact through bodily fluids such as coughing or sneezing and other intimate contact. The usual precautions taken to prevent the spread of any disease are adequate.
Posted by disturbedme (Member # 12346) on :
quote:Originally posted by adamm: Well, if you believe Lida Mattman, Lyme can be airborne and
is one of the easiest disease to transmit from person to person
(I don't believe this, BTW.)
Wow.... If this was true then by now, I think EVERYONE would have lyme disease/co's. Posted by TerryK (Member # 8552) on :
I don't think anyone knows the answers for sure.
Babs can be transmitted via blood transfusion and I don't think it is known how easily transmitted it is or even all the ways it could be transmitted.
"The parasite represents a threat to the safety of the blood supply in that blood from asymptomatic humans can transmit Babesia to blood recipients. Such transmissions have occurred."
Bart is found in saliva and nails of dogs and cats. It can be transmitted by fleas, bites, scratches etc.. so I assume it might be able to be transmitted via saliva from human to human but perhaps it needs to go into the bloodstream?? I doubt there have been any studies on this.
I read that both of these can be transmitted to a fetus if the mother is infected. Same for lyme.
"As in Lyme Disease and Babesiosis, Bartonella may be transmitted to the fetus in the infected pregnant patient."
I think I read about bart being transmitted from a mother cat to her kittens. Don't have time to dig up studies but you could do a search on the internet for more info.
There is a doctor who tested sperm and found borrelia in sperm, vaginal secretions and breast milk. I know there are some LLMD's who feel that it is transmitted. I've been told at fairly low rates.
Search here for more info. This has been discussed many times.
Terry
[ 06. February 2008, 11:37 PM: Message edited by: TerryK ]
Posted by jamescase20 (Member # 14124) on :
Dr Sheffer in FLA told me on the phone a few weeks ago that bart spreads like wildfire. A lick of your hand, rub your spouses mouth, thats it, there infected with bart. Kiss? Totally spreads bart. I killed a cat 3 yrs ago with my unknown bart, and my dad got the symtoms a few weeks after sharing a coffee mug with me. He got lucky a duck gave him 2 weeks of levaquine and it was over for him.
Posted by laura j (Member # 14257) on :
I found out I had Mycoplasma before I found out I had Lyme. I was treated for Myco with 6 wks. of Doxy by my primary care dr. I then saw my LLMD and she said that was more than enough to eradicate Myco and put me on Ceftin due to my extensive Neuro symptoms.
I like my LLMD very much but am a little put off by the fact that she says Myco can be done away with that quickly. Everything I read on this website says that's not the case.
I don't know what kind of Myco I had/have but just wondering if I could have given it to my family.
I don't know if I have any other co-infections.
Posted by adamm (Member # 11910) on :
I as well think I may have given Myco to my family--
5 days after my tick bite, I got a respiratory illness, and they got
a similar one 3 days after that.
Posted by laura j (Member # 14257) on :
adamm,
I guess I should get them tested then!
Did your family get tested or treated?
Posted by Mathias (Member # 5298) on :
6 weeks of antiboitics is not enough to eradicate mycoplasma. It goes dormant and then reappears during times when you immune system is taxed (colds, stress, etc.). Don't underestimate mycoplasma. It is a lyme mimic.
Posted by adamm (Member # 11910) on :
Oh--I should mention, however, that neither of my parents have any disease sx now.
Posted by laura j (Member # 14257) on :
I wonder if it's possible that I don't have Lyme, just Mycoplasma?
I tested 1 band positive on WB (41).
I don't know what to do. My LLMD insists the 6 wks. of Doxy was more than enough to take care of the Myco. Whenever I push the subject she seems irritated.
When I tell my husband I may need to switch dr.'s b/c of this, HE gets irritated. Posted by just don (Member # 1129) on :
Guess I better correct myself before this thread gets away!!
James case says,,, and probably true that I read up on it a bit,,, I learn something every day,I hope!!
BART is highly transmitable between family members or anyone else!!
how does anyone NOT get this then?? Sharing nail clippers?? ANY family that 'doesnt' share nail clippers??
Still--just don--
Posted by laura j (Member # 14257) on :
Is Bart considered to be chronic as well? I was under the impression that because I've had Lyme so long that I'm out of the woods with this. I thought it was only a problem for awhile in the beginning. Am I wrong?
Posted by adamm (Member # 11910) on :
Hey, JustDon--care to share with us the literature in which
you read that Bart is that easily spread? Posted by AliG (Member # 9734) on :
LauraJ,
Band 41 is the flagellate tail of a spirochete. I believe that it would not be indicative of mycoplasma.
Adamm,
I may have misunderstood justdon, but I believe that he was saying that he DOESN'T believe that Bart is THAT easily transmissible.
I would think that Cat Scratch Fever is so-called because it requires contact with broken skin. I would wonder about the possibility of passage through some passionate kissing, but a cough or sneeze??? I'm not so sure that should be a concern, unless perhaps in the eye.
I really don't know. I'm just speculating here.
My LLMD had told me that he didn't believe that the sharing of utensils/foods & beverages would be a likely concern for transmission of Bb and Babs. I was not Dxd with Bart so I didn't ask specifics on that one.
I WAS told that sexual transmission of Bb was a DEFINITE concern and that barrier protection should suffice. I didn't ask about the others because if you know you need to be concerned for one thing, what's the difference whether the others are a potential problem.
It certainly would be interesting to have the breakdown and some studies to support the information.
[ 08. February 2008, 09:23 AM: Message edited by: AliG ]
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