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Posted by tailz (Member # 10014) on :
 
I'm freaking out too much to digest it! Here was his response...

Dear Carol,

Thank you for sharing your experiences with me. I have had patients who were similarly affected by electromagnetic fields.

It all makes sense, because our nervous system is an electrochemical network, and all pulsatile electrical impulses such as those generated by our nerves will also generate magnetic fields.

Conversely, varying magnetic fields do generate electrical impulses.

A large field of interest on this subject has emerged among sufferers of Chronic fatigue syndrome, and there are claims that the illnesses that resulted in the fatigue also damaged the body cells such that they no longer can generate smooth, coordinated electrical energy.

Several medical devices have been developed to address and try to correct these imbalances. One of my patients is using the Ondamed machine- this uses sophisticated biofeedback systems to identify and then correct the electrical imbalances that it finds. This patient is already doing better.

I have spoken with several trusted colleagues who are experienced in this area, and they agree that some people are electrically sensitive and can be helped with the right treatments.

The Townsend Letter (a journal devoted to alternative medicine) recently ran a series on electrical theories of disease- below is a link to the second article in the series. This article talks about some of the theories and machines.
http://www.townsendletter.com/April2008/healelectro0408.htm

I hope you find this information useful.
It is possible to shield these electromagnetic emissions, and this shielding can be very helpful to those who live too close to power lines, etc. It is possible to make this type of shield yourself (or have it made for you).

The shield is a meshwork made of metal- like chicken wire- it is placed in the attic or is used to line a wall inside or outside the house (inner walls so treated can have a regular drape or curtain hung on the wall to hide the mesh).

If you want to explore such a shield, before you start meshing up your house (pun intended!), get a small square of the mesh and experiment to see if it works for you.

The heavier the wire in the mesh the better- this is why chicken wire is better than window screens. If the meshwork is too large, as in a chain link fence, it may not be as good for some of the frequencies so a heavy chicken wire is the best bet.

Anyway, please do not think that you are crazy- you are not- things happen for a reason and it is up to the medical people to help find the answers.

Please write back after you try some of these things- I'd love to hear about your findings. Also, if you do come up with some good hints, then you should consider writing a letter or a small article for the Townsend Letter.

I'm sure they will get a charge out of it!!!
Best wishes, from
Dr. B....................!
 

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Posted by feelfit (Member # 12770) on :
 
Good for you Tails! I have always admired the strength of your convictions. I guess you just had a very esteemed Doctor validate some of your theories. good for you!

Feelfit
 

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Posted by laura j (Member # 14257) on :
 
Congratulations Tailz! I am so happy that Dr. B validated what you've been thinking all along. That must feel great! If you try any of his suggestions (I'm sure you will!), please let us know how it turns out, okay?!!!

Laura
 

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Posted by tailz (Member # 10014) on :
 
I'm still freaking out too much. I honestly didn't think he'd write me back - especially the very next day. I wasn't even sure if his email address was still valid. Are we having a magnetic storm maybe?

Nope. I just checked - only an electron flux.
 

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Posted by sixgoofykids (Member # 11141) on :
 
Well, my grandfather used to be a plasterer and used chicken wire extensively .... I can only hope that the walls in my 92 year old house already has enough chicken wire.

I get headaches from cell phones .... I use mine on speaker, but usually use the house phone instead.

Interesting info coming from Dr. B! Congrats on getting an answer.
 

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Posted by METALLlC BLUE (Member # 6628) on :
 
I'm interested in contacting Dr. B. My girlfriend talked to him last year at the Lyme Conference in the UK. They talked for awhile, and he gave her a lot of information. She lives in Italy, where she was infected (Multiple co-infections), so you can imagine how hard it has been on her. There is "zero" competence here in Italy to treat the illness. You'd be lucky to find one doctor who even knows much about the chronic form of these illnesses.

I'm very glad to hear you got some information on your situation T. You've talked about this constantly for awhile, and I knew something certainly must be going on with you -- in terms of an actual biological issue affecting your health, but I just didn't know anything about the negative effects of EMF.

I'm about to start Rife therapy, let's hope I don't run into problems!
 

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Posted by GiGi (Member # 259) on :
 
And don't forget to - as a starter - pull the fuses when you go to bed, at least for the walls that surround the bedroom where we spend the most hours in one place and the exposure is great.

We have large flashlights from WalMart that sit on the nightstands and give off plenty of light when need to get up.

EMF is our worst stressor and getting worse every day. And the bugs flourish!

Take care.
 

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Posted by Lymetoo (Member # 743) on :
 
Cool!
 

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Posted by lymeladyinNY (Member # 10235) on :
 
Wow, tailz, so glad you got such a wonderful, thoughtful response from Dr. B.

That guy is the real deal - I wish I knew him.

How exciting for you - validation feels great!!

- Lymelady
 

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Posted by canbravelyme (Member # 9785) on :
 
Tailz,

I can't thank you enough for doing this!

As you are aware, EMF is a significant sensitivity for me.

The chicken wire makes sense. I think I'm going to try it in my bedroom. I think it's the outside walls that aggravate me the most.

Best wishes,
 

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Posted by Truthfinder (Member # 8512) on :
 
Way to go, Tailz!

You've done us all a great service by writing about the dangers of EM exposures. Your letter to and response from Dr. B. is just icing on the cake.

Maybe this is your calling, Tailz - at least for the moment. In fact, IMHO these companies that make stuff like the Q-link necklaces and the Towerbusters and other `preventative' devices should be providing their products to you for free, and paying you to evaluate them!!

The chicken wire idea sounds fine for your home, but I don't think it would work in your car. You still need something to protect you out there in The World.

I'm still willing to send some $$ towards any products you think might be worth trying. All you would have to do is let us all know if they worked or not. It would be worth it to me to find out what works out there and what is bogus. You know where to PM me.

Thanks again, Tailz.
 

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Posted by kelmo (Member # 8797) on :
 
Very interesting, Tailz. It was reported that men's fertility has dropped 20% in the past few years. This is attributed to laptop computers and cellphones.

I know my tinnitus is worse in front of the monitor of the computer.

We got wireless phones because we moved into a house with a pool. But, I was very happy with my landline.

I do believe it's one contributor to making us feel crappy.
 

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Posted by luvdogs (Member # 9507) on :
 
Tailz -

That is incredible! I suffer from the same sensitivities as you, and always read your posts with interest.

Thank you so much for sharing this with us. I have heard of this machine but will now look more into it. I think that, last I looked, it was outrageously expensive.

UPDATE: I just called them and the practitioner price is $24,520. Yeouwwwzaaa!

But some food for thought!

Thank you again,
Luvdogs
 

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Posted by SForsgren (Member # 7686) on :
 
With ART testing, I found that my sleeping location was a stressor. I got a Body Voltage meter which for good health should read < 1. It was over 4 which is very concerning and promotes illness. I turned off the circuit breaker and it dropped from about 4.1 to .8. I never took it too seriously, but now, every night, I turn off the breaker before I go to sleep.
 

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Posted by tailz (Member # 10014) on :
 
I still can't believe he wrote me back. I really wish I knew him personally.

The people on the EMF forum are telling me that chicken wire will help for microwave fields and perhaps electrical (if it is grounded), but not magnetic fields, which are a big part of my problem.

Are you telling me that there is chicken wire inside plaster walls? Maybe this is why I felt okay at me daughter's, even though she lives even closer to a cell phone tower than I do. Many of her walls are plaster. My home has all drywall.

Dr. Burrascano sent me some more links though today on EMFs - these are about cars...

Fear, but Few Facts, on Hybrid Risk

http://tinyurl.com/3hzv56

A Plug-In Conversion for Prius

http://tinyurl.com/6h8vjv
 

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Posted by bettyg (Member # 6147) on :
 
tailz, congrats for writing dr. b and his being so kind to write a nice long, informative reply back to you.


thanks for posting it for others to learn from as well!! i'll post this link in my newbie package where i have another link referring to your specific problem.
 

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Posted by sixgoofykids (Member # 11141) on :
 
Tailz, I Googled it .... I remember my grandfather working a lot with chicken wire .... I guess that was when he did stucco work. So, if your daughter lives in a stucco house, it would have the chicken wire.

Lathe, from wood, is used with plaster.
 

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Posted by LymeCFIDSMCS (Member # 13573) on :
 
This is great. I'm especially intrigued by what he says about CFIDS. I have bad EMF sensitivity at this point. Have you tried the device he mentioned?

I'm assuming he's talking about a Faraday cage when he talks about the chicken wire. At one point, I was actually looking into these steel home kits and wondering if that would be a good way to go. I think it a metal home were built right, it could act as a Faraday cage and repel EMFs.

I'm glad Dr. B. is such an open-minded and thoughtful physician.
 

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Posted by cottonbrain (Member # 13769) on :
 
Tailz, I'm glad you got validation for what you knew was affecting you.

chicken wire!! who knew?

Also, for very little money, anyone can buy a GAUSS meter, a small handheld device that measures EMR. It's what power company employees use.

I have two -- they both read the same-- most are fairly accurate. The worst offenders in my home were: microwave oven, television, computer display screen.

Cellphones put out unbelievable EMR

I replaced my computer display with a flat panel, which emits hardly any EMR. I don't know if replacing a regular tv with a flat screen would have the same effect or not.

also, some microwave ovens put out way more EMR than others. With ours, you have to stand about 12 feet away to be in the safe zone.

"the Ondamed machine- this uses sophisticated biofeedback systems to identify and then correct the electrical" -- fascinating! I wonder if this has to be implanted?

Tailz, thanks for bringing this to everyone's attention. you go girl.
 

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Posted by SForsgren (Member # 7686) on :
 
Dr K has often said Hybrid cars are great for the environment in that they are healthier in terms of less emissions, etc. and that they eventually kill the driver....which is also potentially good for the environment...
 

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Posted by Niere (Member # 14387) on :
 
Tailz--I'm so happy for you! How tremendously validating.

Now we just need to find a solution for this. Will getting rid of tbd's lessen your sensitivity do you think?
 

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Posted by Cobweb (Member # 10053) on :
 
Is that why chickens can run around with their heads cut off?

All I know is that the average life expectancy keeps going up-mostly in the industrial countries that use a ton of electricity.

Maybe God allowed the invention of cell phones as a form of population control.

Who knows? But we are living longer inspite of everything we do to damage our health.
 

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Posted by D Bergy (Member # 9984) on :
 
Just keep in mind that this electro sensitivity is a symptom of Lyme disease. A vast majority of people who do not have Lyme, do not have this problem.

My wife had it for a time, but now it has gone away along with her sensitivity to sunlight.

I am not saying the amount of microwaves out there cannot negatively effect a person, it really depends on a many variables, but Lyme disease is the main problem.

As a matter of fact, this freakin transmitter for my cordless mouse causes a sensation on my leg. I am going to switch it out because I do not like it. It is too close for comfort.

D Bergy
 

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Posted by laura j (Member # 14257) on :
 
When I rest my laptop on my thighs, it makes my thigh bones ache like crazy. Also, right before I started getting very sick, I moved my bedroom furniture around with our headboard facing the street. Our bedroom is pretty much on the street and the power lines are right there. Interesting........
 

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Posted by lymeHerx001 (Member # 6215) on :
 
I was going to get a job at the mall, but when I walk around there I get too dizzy and foggy.

I know I get this way around mold, but the mall?

I think it has to do with the electrical fields and all of the chemicals in the mall. They are selling lots of products.

Oh how I wish I were 19 again. I would do things so much differentlly.
 

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Posted by tailz (Member # 10014) on :
 
I forget now who asked, but I will tell you if treatment for bartonella with rifampin lessens my EMF sensitivity. So far I'm still 'reacting', but I actually slept a little last night. I'm usually up all night, tossing and turning, and at the crack of dawn, I'm awake.

I'm positive for babesia (not bartonella though) and only taking artemisinin for babs because my insurance won't cover malarone, and mepron is way out of my budget - kind of like that $25,250 machine is (though I wish).

I'm not sure what my problem is here in this place with EMFs. If I flip the circuit breaker, the magnetic field remains. The only time it drops is if the power goes out altogether.

Does that mean it is coming from the wires in the ground or the power lines? They don't look like classic high tension power lines - just everyday power lines. My home is the second closest home to these power lines.

The people on the EMF forum though are saying that the chicken wire will only help with microwave and electric fields (if grounded) - not magnetic fields. I'm not sure what to do.

I think the microwaves are what made me extra sensitive to the magnetic fields, so maybe in a roundabout way chicken wire would help? I'm not sure.

I feel like moving, but I'm stuck here forever because, even though Dr. Burrascano believes me, I think my family just thinks I'm being cute (or a pain, in some instances).

I think my electrosensitivity has to do with excess metals though, for sure. Whenever I take certain antibiotics (minocycline and rifampin), my teeth start to accumulate this horrible brown coating - like oxidized metals.

I don't have a lot of tartar - even less than when I was healthy - just this ugly brown coating that accumulates and tastes like metal, especially after I take these antibiotics.

It doesn't just stick to the areas that tartar builds up either - the entire backs of some of my teeth are brown.
 

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Posted by METALLlC BLUE (Member # 6628) on :
 
I had the same problem with Tetracycline, except I was in my 20's while taking it. That is not supposed to happen! So I bought Rembrant teeth Bleaching kit with Hydrogen Perioxide. My teeth turned nice and white again, but with ongoing use of Tetracycline they turned yellowish again, so I'll get the kit again. Now I'm off Tetracycline, so it should be nice!
 

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Posted by daise (Member # 13622) on :
 
Howdy Tailz,

Congratulations on the validation!

You've been right on it for a while now and look what you did and how you've contributed to people knowing about a symptom of Lyme.

You hit the bulls-eye!

daise
 

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Posted by Robin123 (Member # 9197) on :
 
Interesting post, Tailz, and congrats on getting an informative discussion going here.

Hm - I'm just thinking about your comment in your last post here about electrosensitivity possibly being due to heavy metals.

Well, that's what the Lyme bacteria attracts and binds, so could that be one reason for our biological electromagnetic screw-ups, as well as for anyone else who has accumulated heavy metals in their body?

Also, every year here we have a whole life expo, and there are lots of people and companies dealing with products to protect and shield against electromagnetism.
 

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Posted by tailz (Member # 10014) on :
 
I hit the "bull's eye"? lol

I know that I had occupational levels of arsenic in my blood at one point (of course, they did nothing). Also, around that time when I ate spirulina for the very first time, it literally clung to my gums and teeth. I'm lucky I was at home when this happened. Green teeth are not very flattering.

Since I had never eaten spirulina before, I thought maybe this was just a food that required you to rinse your mouth out, brush your teeth, or at the very least, look in the mirror afterwards. It did not do this once I started detoxing.

Now I wonder if it was binding to metals.
 

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Posted by Peacesoul (Member # 13709) on :
 

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Originally posted by kelmo:

I know my tinnitus is worse in front of the monitor of the computer.

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Originally posted by GiGi:
And don't forget to - as a starter - pull the fuses when you go to bed, at least for the walls that surround the bedroom where we spend the most hours in one place and the exposure is great.

We have large flashlights from WalMart that sit on the nightstands and give off plenty of light when need to get up.

EMF is our worst stressor and getting worse every day. And the bugs flourish!

Take care.

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Ok, I'm confused. You mean you turn off your breakers/fuses before bed?
My breakers are right in front of my bedroom.
If I turn them off all night, I won't have hot water in the morning

Can you explain this further
 

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Posted by cottonbrain (Member # 13769) on :
 
Someone said that Lyme is the main culprit, that it makes us more susceptible to electromagnetic radiation.

Please remember, too, that EMR is blamed for childhood leukemia. Very important to remember if you have kids.
 

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Posted by Peacesoul (Member # 13709) on :
 
Tailz, crazy question, do you smoke?
 

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Posted by canbravelyme (Member # 9785) on :
 
Peace:

Are you sure that your hotwater tank is on the same circuit as your bedroom lights and / or outlets? You're trying to turn off the electricity that runs in the walls.

Tailz:

I'm not sure if I buy that there is a difference between electrical radiation, and magnetic radiation.

As Dr. B. points out, where there is a magnetic field, there is electricity. Where there is electricity, there is a magnetic field.

I would put the chicken wire at least on the side of the house nearest the power line. What you're trying to do is break up the frequencies.

ie all radiation are waves of different lengths. They are discreet when they enter your body, and there is resonance. It's this resonance that makes us uncomfortable.

The chicken wire is used to break up some of the wavelengths, before they enter the house. Depending on the size of the holes in the mesh, it mechanically breaks up the waves.

Best wishes,
 

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Posted by lymielauren28 (Member # 13742) on :
 
Tailz, congratulations honey! The first two years that I was sick with lyme, believe it or not, it was very mild.

Then I went on a cruise to Mexico with my family and became horribly ill. All of my symptoms were magnified ten fold...it's a year and a half later and I am still horribly ill...mostly neurological.

I have always suspected that it was due to all of the towers and the EMF - cruise ships are the WORST!!! Thank you so much for sticking to your guns and helping all of us get the answers we need.
 

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Posted by Peacesoul (Member # 13709) on :
 

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Originally posted by canbravelyme:
Peace:

Are you sure that your hotwater tank is on the same circuit as your bedroom lights and / or outlets? You're trying to turn off the electricity that runs in the walls.

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