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Posted by mecop186 (Member # 15540) on :
 
Hi and thank you for approving me.
To make a long story not, about 12 years ago, I developed a rash on my right wrist. There was no pain that I recall, but it (the rash) was roughly the size of a silver dollar, was raised about 1/4 inch and had a dot in the center. At that time I was going thru a divorce, so I didn't give it much thought.

Now, at the age of 45, I am in an assisted living facility because of several medical issues: a bad back, trigeminal neauralgia, chronic fatigue syndrome, some neurological things within my skull, etc.

I have read a bit about Lyme symptoms and I would have to say, I seem to have 90 % or higher of the symptoms. I requested a test, which was done with a blood draw and, a day later, was told the test was negative. I have spoken with a physical therapist who advised that I need to insist that an "anti-body" test be done.

Would you have any info/recommendations?

Thank you for your time.
Very Truly Yours,
Bob Bailey
 
Posted by disturbedme (Member # 12346) on :
 
They probably did the Elisa test which is the antibody test... MOST of those tests come back negative.

You need to have a Western Blot done. Lab Corp or Quest is usually not a good place to have it done, but it can be a starting point. If that comes back negative, it doesn't mean you don't have it.

You should look for a lyme literate doctor who will know what to do and will test you through IgeneX which is a lab that specializes in lyme testing.
 
Posted by bettyg (Member # 6147) on :
 
welcome bob bailey! glad you found us!!


i've got info galore for you in what i'll tell you about below.


you need western blot igm and igg blood test drawn and sent to igenex, calif.


also, should have CO-INFECTION testing done for bartonella, babsiosa, and erlichia...most common ones. we recommend fry labs in arizona for that; as good as and cheapter than igenex!


are you on SSDI, disability insurance benefits, and MEDICARE? IF ON MEDICARE, TESTING IS "FREE" AT IGENEX!!
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Posted by cjnelson (Member # 12928) on :
 
Hate that you are in an assistant living facility at the age of 45! YIKES!!!

You are smart to KEEP LOOKING!! Kudos on your efforts!

It may be difficult to get testing done as you need in your situation. Are your MD's on site???? Or can you travel to them???

If you can travel post in SEEKING DOCTOR and find a LLMD - Lyme Literat Medical Doctor - that will order the proper testing.

Otherwise as you MD for an antibiotic challenge and see if they would be willing to do this.

Keep us updated!
 
Posted by mecop186 (Member # 15540) on :
 
Wow! Thank you ALL for the replies!

I'm going to be reading thru the posts here and

will probably have a zillion questions for you

all. I will try to be sure that I look for

particular answers before I clutter up the board

with repeat questions.

Thanks Again
Bob
 
Posted by Lymetoo (Member # 743) on :
 
Do NOT worry about "cluttering up" the board!! We want to save you!!

Yes, get a Western Blot test done... preferably at Igenex Lab in CA. It will cost about $200.

You sound like you really could have Lyme. That rash was likely a small bullseye. If so, then you have it for sure.

Keep reading!! We'll help!

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Posted by adamm (Member # 11910) on :
 
you have lyme. that particular rash is diagnostic, and a negative

test means absolutely nothing. If you do a search here,

you'll see that Johns Hopkins confirmed this in a recently published

study.


You should post in seeking a doc and find an LLMD asap.
 
Posted by groovy2 (Member # 6304) on :
 
Hi ME --


All of the tests are very poor and
get worse threw time -

If What you saw was a Lyme Bullseye
you have lyme -

Lyme is Best Diagnosed by Symptoms-
If you have 90% of them you are most
likely looking in the right place-

I have been sick for 20 yrs -
I was a month or 2 from having to go to
assisted living place -

I also had about 90% of the symptoms-
and saw a bullseye -

Now after 3 yrs of treatment I feel
Perty Good most of the time -

Last Saturday I walked 10 miles -
Boy my feet hurt -

If I can get better You Can TOO -

--Jay--
 
Posted by mecop186 (Member # 15540) on :
 
I was diagnosed with Trigeminal Neuralgia in

2000. The diagnosis was based entirely on

the "ice pick" headaches I would get on the

right side of my face. I was put on EVERY pain

killer out there, including Fentanyl Patches,

Dilauded, Percocet, etc.

I finally had Gamma Knife surgery done at New

England Medical Center in Boston on Sept. 11,

2002. Didn't help, PLUS I'm scared to death of

hospitals now! Long story short... I had to have

this medival device screwed into my skull at 4

points. Once they did that, I was slid into an

MRI (have had more than 45 MRI's since then).

After about a minute or so, I saw a little puff

of smoke and then it felt like a blowtorch being

held on my forehead. I rang the buzzer and they

asked if needed something. I said that something

was pretty uncomfortable. They came in and the

next thing I knew, their pulling me out and

there's 6 staff people crowding around me. They

told me that one of the four titanium screws

was, well, not titanium, it was the "other kind"

and they asked if I wanted to speak to the dept

head. I was pretty sketchy on that, so I said no


So, I HATE hospitals

now!

But, could this diagnosis have been wrong? I

have had many Lyme symptoms for a long time.

Thanks again... you guys are great!
Bob
 
Posted by sixgoofykids (Member # 11141) on :
 
It sounds very possible that you have Lyme ... actually, very likely.

I never have trusted doctors for years because of all my misdiagnoses, but going to the Lyme doctor was very different. I encourage you to post under seeking doctors to find one near you.

Don't mess around with the non-Lyme literate docs anymore.
 
Posted by tailz (Member # 10014) on :
 
quote:
Once they did that, I was slid into an

MRI (have had more than 45 MRI's since then).

After about a minute or so, I saw a little puff

of smoke and then it felt like a blowtorch being

held on my forehead. I rang the buzzer and they

asked if needed something. I said that something

was pretty uncomfortable.

Your rash indicates that you most likely have Lyme (and one or more of the coinfections), but don't stop there. 45 MRIs?

I'd bet my right arm AND my left arm that you are also electrosensitive like I am, too. I thought I'd die during a SPECT scan of my brain.

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http://www.bioinitiative.org/report/index.htm

See my signature, too.
 
Posted by mecop186 (Member # 15540) on :
 
k, I'll check those out! What happened with the

screws that were used to secure the "halo" to my

skull is the fact that, I was told, titanium

screws can be used inside the MRI, but titanium

is the ONLY type of metal, all others absorb the

massive rays emitted from the machine. When

these non-titanium screws get mixed in by

mistake ("mistake" is the word that they used at

the hospital) you will take the risk of being

burned by the heat. Thats what happened to me

and, as a reult, I have refused to have the

other surgery done; that surgery involves

cutting a section of skull bone out, placing

teflon pads between the nerves and then closing

up. Being hurt in the MRI with wrong screws

scared me enough. I guess my point is: if this

IS Lyme, then I was misdiagnosed for many years

and have undergone many types of treatment that

has not worked. Does that make sense? I mean, 3

MD's, 2 neurologists and two big hospitals? I

was diagnosed with Trigeminal Neuralgia in 2000

by 1 dr and all the rest of what I've gone thru

has been based on his diagnosis.
 


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