Doctor strongly suspects I am diabetic and I will have the blood tests tomorrow to confirm. Does anyone else have diabetes and lyme. Can the diabetes go away if the lyme gets better?
Am very scared. Hiker53
Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
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I'm not sure just one blood test can confirm diabetes. You might need several over time. Also there is a test that can average your glucose over 30 days' time. However, if you have sharp swings up and down then with low blood sugar, that test may not be the most accurate.
In addition to having the labs ordered by your doctor, you might want to get a glucose test meter. Many are free just by calling one of the companies, such as Bayer. Be aware, though, that unless diabetes is dx, test strips are very expensive. You'll get a few samples with the meter, though.
I think there is a good chance of it reversing if someone can still make insulin. Even if not, are required there are many things that can help support the body.
There are many cases of people reversing diabetes by lifestyle - food choices, supplements, and whatever exercise plan gets one moving without adding to fatigue.
Since still addressing the infection(s), it is important not to over tax as the body just has to work harder then. However, even low impact movement like Tai Chi or QiGong can be great at getting circulation going. Walking can be very good, too.
Adrenal support can help general endurance and support the right amount of exercise, too. Ashwagandha, Siberian Ginseng (this is not regular ginseng), cordyceps . . .
An herb, gymnema sylvestre, and minerals such as magnesium, chromium picolinate and other nutrients can be very helpful, too. I wonder if you have a naturopath or acupuncturist who is well versed in diabetes care.
There are various supplements which have been seen in studies not only to help lower blood sugar but to help the pancreas work better.
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BIO GYMNEMA by Ayush Herbs is just one formula that might be of interest.
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Posted by Cass A (Member # 11134) on :
The ZONE diet works very well to reverse Type II diabetes.
The easiest book to follow is "Mastering the Zone," which tells you what blood tests to get and how to manage the diet exactly.
My husband came back from the start of Type II diabetes to totally normal glucose metabolism using this diet and no drugs.
Best,
Cass A
Posted by Lymetoo (Member # 743) on :
Wow, that would explain a few things, wouldn't it, hiker??
Did you get the test that checks the blood sugar over the past 4-6 wks??
I know it's often reversible with diet, but your diet is already clean so I don't know.
Hugs to you and prayers too! Posted by hiker53 (Member # 6046) on :
Thanks for the info. Tutu, I just had a blood glucose meter reading this morning 2 hours after eating and it was sky high. Tomorrow I have the glucose tolerance test along with another test that tells how your body has been handling sugar the past few weeks.
I told my LLMD in March that I thought I had symptoms of diabetes and he blew me off saying they were all symptoms of lyme. I know you like this LLMD, but I am looking for another one.
I certainly have the symptoms--dry mouth, thirst, constant urination, dizziness, fatigue, inflamed gums, and sudden rapid weight loss.
Grrr. Hiker53
Posted by Lymetoo (Member # 743) on :
Wow. He's not perfect! They've actually checked my blood sugar in the office before, so I have no clue why he blew it off.
Posted by bettyg (Member # 6147) on :
hiker,
i've had diabetes 2 for 4.5 yrs; 6 mo. dx BEFORE my correct chronic lyme dx.
they have told me once you have diabetes 2, you will have it the rest of your life!!!
they stated you could get it and KEEP IT UNDER CONTROL by keeping it at 6.0 on A1C; hemoglobin.
when you go tomorrow; ask for A1C; 3 month check of blood sugars how they are running.
i have an awful appetite all night long since i'm up, etc.
so many of our meds cause weight gain too; haven't been able to lose 10% of my weight is what they really strive for!!
diabetes assn. says anything below 7.0 for A1C is good!
drs. say 6.5
normal is 6.0 ... so that's the magic no. to have or BELOW!
good luck. i was on diet/exercise for 2 yrs. when it got worse....higher blood sugar numbers.
was on 1 pill 2 yrs. and this year 2nd was added and higher dosage of 2nd one.
dr. told me it will continue like this until we end up on insuline. Posted by C.M.L (Member # 15715) on :
When I went to the Dr's two weeks ago, I was tested for everything. I came up positive for Active lyme, and I also have signs of Diabetes 2. (The start of it) However I am 5'4'' and 110 lbs. I don't understand this. I go for the glucose test next week. My question is, does lyme sometimes affect the way you produce insulin? or cause you insulin levels to lower? I don't know why my dr. checked insulin levels before the glucose test.
Posted by Lymetoo (Member # 743) on :
CML... Hiker is very tiny too. I know diabetes can cause weight loss.
I don't know the answer to your questions. Hopefully, someone here does!
Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
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ANY infection - especially a chronic infection - can interfere with the body's capacity to produce insulin and increase the risk for diabetes. Inflammation and elevated cytokines are also a risk factor.
Still, there are things we can do to help minimize the risks or help repair the malfunctions.
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Posted by C.M.L (Member # 15715) on :
What are normal insulin levels? My doc said mine was 26. ?? That was after two meals. no fasting.
I go for the glucose test next week. I get the shakes if i don't eat every 2 hrs. I am constantly thirsty too. I can't gain weight.
If in fact I have diabetes 2, does it go away?
Posted by Lymetoo (Member # 743) on :
26?? I think anything over 120 or 130 (they recently changed it, so I don't remember) is considered high.
I would say anything under 60 is pretty danged LOW!!!
Diabetes II can be a non-issue with a good diet in SOME cases. I know of some! But seems to me if you're already thin, maybe you can't do as much.
Watch your carb intake. Carbs convert to sugar very quickly and will raise the blood sugar.
Where's hiker?? I was hoping she would report in today. Hope she's not feeling horrible from her test!!!
Posted by hiker53 (Member # 6046) on :
Had the glucose test done and of course I get werid results:
fasting glucose--very normal binding hemoglobin--very normal Drank 100mg solution of glucose and had 3 moe blood draws over 3 hours and the first two were a little high and the third was normal.
Since found out that I will probably have to repeat the test, since the 100 mg solution is given to pregnant woman and not to someone who weighs 91 pounds! What a bummer. That glucose solution made me feel ill and I had to lie down the whole three hours.
Anyway, I see an endocrinologist tomorrow (Thursday) and will report back.
Felt good enough to run errands, mow my 1/3 acre with a self propelled mower, and write a paper for a grad class today, but you could not get me out of bed after that test yesterday Hiker53
Posted by Lymetoo (Member # 743) on :
Glad to hear you're OK now. I have heard of those who got very ill from the test. UGH!
I'm glad that the test was not wildly abnormal... but sorry to hear you have to do it again!!!
Did you ever have that 24 hr urine collection test?? Was thinking maybe your other hormones are out of whack.
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