ronsers book "top 10 lyme treatments" has a whole section about rotating abx combos and its pretty effective.
basically use an abx for 1-3 months in combination with other such as a macrolide, tetra, and sulfa, then change them all, and go at it again.
treat babesia if needed in there also, and dont run out of drugs too quickly.
also add an anti fungal for support as well as a good detox program
good luck. the general idea is to rotate the abx one you have herxed, made improvement, and plautaued (sp?)
good luck
derek
Posted by ByronSBell 2007 (Member # 11496) on :
Destroy the biofilm and attack all three forms of the borrelia.
They do not become resistant to ABX.
Posted by mikej2323 (Member # 8913) on :
Byron,
Not exactly sure what you mean when you say, "they" do not become resistant to ABX?
Do you have any research on bacterial biofilms, in-vivo? Ever since I saw Dr. MacDonald being interviewed on "Under Our Skin", I have been searching for information. It would appear this is a reason for treatment failures.
Some people think grapefruit seed extract is helpful to bust cysts. I took some & I herxed alot.
Posted by djf2005 (Member # 11449) on :
the bacteria most certainly become resistant to abx, they adapt and mutate accordingly.
borrelia could be the least of your problems. there are many other co infections that are equally as harmful and difficult to get rid of.
rotating abx is an effective way of managing this issue.
Posted by Corinne E (Member # 4670) on :
Hope somebody can answer this for me. In the meat industry, all animals are given abx, I don't know in what amounts or what abx they are given, but do know that over 75% of abx produced in north america is reserved for the meat industry.
Does anyone know if these animals or the bacteria/germs, etc. become anti-biotic resistant. If they do, what or how does this industry treat this? I also have read that the main reason for giving abx to these animals, is abx fattens them up and faster.
Corinne
Posted by Clarissa (Member # 4715) on :
I don't think they've discovered what kills the biofilms yet.
I was talking to my LLMD last week about Mesosilver and how, theoretically, it hits everything AND bust cysts.
Then I asked, "but can it penetrate the biofilm?"
He laughed (mostly because he was impressed that I even knew what the hell a biofilm was) and said, "That's the million dollar question!!!"
This research is still in the works. As far as keeping the resistance down, I totally agree with Derek's posts. You have to keep "tricking" them. They're verrrrry smart (unfortunately).
Posted by TerryK (Member # 8552) on :
I've read in many places that green tea helps with antibiotic resistance.
http://www.lifeenhancement.net/article_template.asp?ID=596 GREEN TEA VS. SUPERBUGS One of the most important aspects of green tea's antimicrobial effects is that it not only acts synergistically with antibiotics to fight pathogens, but it actually seems to reverse drug resistance, one of the world's greatest public health threats.
When green tea extract is added to antibiotic-resistant strains of bacteria, such as the Staphylococcus aureus bacteria responsible for skin infections and abscesses, the microbe actually becomes more sensitive and vulnerable to antibiotics.12 This apparent ability to weaken the modern plague of "superbugs" is one of green tea's most precious gifts yet, and research is proceeding full steam ahead in that area.
I'm short of time right now otherwise I would look for you but you should be able to find some studies. Looks like one is referenced in the article that I gave the link for.
Terry
Posted by sparkle7 (Member # 10397) on :
Interesting about green tea! It's my favorite summertime drink - iced with some mint, you can also add some ginger. No sweeteners. Very refreshing... Drink up!
"The New York Times recently reported [Study Concludes Tea Helps Fight Infection, April 2003] that tea stimulates the immune system to fight disease," says Milton Schiffenbauer, Ph.D., a microbiologist and professor in the Department of Biology at Pace University's Dyson College of Arts & Sciences and primary author of the research.
"Our research shows tea extracts can destroy the organism that causes disease. If we can stimulate the immune system and at the same time we are destroying the organisms, then it makes sense to drink more tea."
All teas contain polyphenols or antioxidants that protect human cells from reactive atoms (free radicals) that are responsible for body tissue damage.
"Flavorids" are a group of polyphenols that occur naturally in tea. It is suspected that the concentration level of these polyphenols in the body is responsible for the beneficial properties of tea.
Polyphenols may also contribute to the prevention of various types of cancer, including pancreas, colon, bladder, prostate and breast cancer.
Several findings are of particular interest:
The anti-viral effect of green tea is much more substantial than the anti-viral effects of either black or white teas.
Results using Eden organic green teas indicate that green tea extract from tea bags is more effective than loose tea, filtered or unfiltered.
In regard to Stash green tea, loose unfiltered tea was more effective than tea bags.
Caffeinated green and black teas are more effective as anti-viral agents than decaffeinated green and black teas.
Teas and polyphenol extract may have applications in the inactivation of human pathogenic viruses.
Posted by mikej2323 (Member # 8913) on :
Can simply rotating the abx. really be effective...especially if a person is low-dosing?
Was researching something else and came across something that might help with the pseudomonas -- the herb spilanthes might be an option.
There is research showing it to be effective with malaria and possibly of some benefit for Lyme as well.
Hubby used a tincture for a while. Thought it did something. I used 15 - 30 drops one or two times a day I think -- pretty sure I used Herb Pharm brand.