Extreme fatigue, tingling hands and feet, ear pressure, tippy feeling, headaches, back pain, sound sensitivity, muscle weakness
no joint pain so they say no lyme
ELISA negative, spinal tap negative
Posted by Lymeorsomething (Member # 16359) on :
What do your tests look like and who says no Lyme?
Some of my main symptoms have been: extreme fatigue, muscle twitching, back aches, numb extremities, particularly in bed...probably related to the low pulse rate Lyme often causes
...and recently I've had the stuffy ear thing...not sure what that is....
My joints have been minimally effected and are not one my major symptoms...
Posted by Lymeorsomething (Member # 16359) on :
Sorry, I see you have had the Elisa....I'd pursue the western blot through a LLMD if possible...
the Elisa test stinks...
Posted by groovy2 (Member # 6304) on :
Hi LG
Elisa test is useless - negative elisa test means nothing --
Are you going to a LLMD( Lyme Literate MD)
sound like you are going to a ID doctor-
Spinal taps usually dont show Lyme- although there was a couple of people here that said there ST showed something --
but ST is not the best test --
A western Blot done threw Igenix lab is the best but still no guarantees that it will show something
This is why Lyme is DX(diagnosed)by symptoms Only-
the tests are very poor and very inaccurate so dont base treatment on test results alone
Hope this helps you--Jay--
Posted by TheCrimeOfLyme (Member # 4019) on :
Ive never had joint pain and Ive had lyme since 2002.. and bartonella.. and erlichia.. and mycoplasma, etc.
Please please post in seeking a doctor. I had all the rest of your symptoms and then some!
Posted by LG2299 (Member # 16682) on :
Nessa1815 Frequent Contributor Member # 15697
posted 06 August, 2008 09:19 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I have all of those, I had back pain before Lyme though. I don't have the tippy feeling.
I also have painful ribs and horrible neuro neck pain.
My tingling hands and feet was the 2nd symptom to make me realllllllllly realize something weird was going on.
At first I thought it was anxiety, but I wasn't anxious.
I'd get an LLMD. I heard that spinal taps aren't that reliable.
I had one test that was negative. Then another was positive after 1 round of antibiotics. I would maybe try to get some antibiotics, then test again.
I always thought that the abx helped my body fight it enough to make antibodies for it so it finally showed up as CDC positive through Labcorp.
I just now have gotten an LLMD and we did some IgeneX testing, I don't know what those will say!
If those come up negative, I'm going to go crazy I think.
Good luck.
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Posted by LG2299 (Member # 16682) on :
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Posted by LG2299 (Member # 16682) on :
hcconn22 Frequent Contributor Member # 5263
posted 07 August, 2008 01:15 AM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Symptoms are consistent with Lyme.
You also live in an endemic area.
ELISA test is worthless.
Spinal tap is worthless & painful too. Normally used to DISPROVE Lyme Dx for insurance.
Both of these tests tell me you are not at a Dr or medical clinic that knows anything about Lyme.
Find a LLMD, and get help.
Get a Western Blot test from a good lab- Igenex, or you can start at a standard local lab. This test is better than both above, but still only is at best 40% indicative. Lyme Disease is a CLINICAL DX and not a simple test.
Ticks also carry several other pathogens- that can make you equal to or worse than Lyme. Please search on lyme disease co-infections on this site or Google. Babesia, bartonolla and Elickelois are VERY common in New England.