Is it the lighting??? The computer??? I have very little dizziness issues over the weekend. And then when I get to work...BAM!
Posted by groovy2 (Member # 6304) on :
Mold ?
Posted by havefaith377 (Member # 15250) on :
I hadn't thought about that?? My instinct though is that it has something to do with my eyes....
Posted by Piegirl (Member # 14786) on :
Same thing for me. I get to work and I get dizzy/disoriented.
I don't work at a computer, so it can't be that. We do have some fluorecent lighting, so maybe that.
But, I really think for me it has alot to do with the fact that I'm having to use my brain and concentrate. I always feel worse when I have to do this. At work or somewhere else.
It is something I wonder about and I can't quite put my finger on it. I know your pain with this. It makes it hard to work. Hang in there.
Mary
Posted by havefaith377 (Member # 15250) on :
Thanks Piegirl...it should would make the task of getting through the work day much easier wouldn't it?? It bites Posted by lymednva (Member # 9098) on :
I know fluorescent lights can do that to me. I absolutely cannot tolerate WalMart (for more reasons than that, though!).
Are you on your feet more at work? That contributes to it for me.
I agree about the concentration thing. That really wears me out. I think the more fatigued I am the worse all my symptoms become.
Hope you can work this out.
Posted by Piegirl (Member # 14786) on :
I just saw your other answer about the eyes. Yes, I also agree it might have something to do with the eyes.
I think maybe how the eyes communicate info back to the brain. It is like I go on overload when my eyes are taking in too much info at once.
This happens to me alot at work I think because I'm trying to get alot done and I'm constantly shifting my focus.
I work in a retail store and a couple times a day I have to go scan the shelves to straiten things that are out of place. I get dizzy so fast when I have to do this.
Or if I'm shopping in other stores and there is alot of stuff in there, and I'm trying to look at everything fast (scanning) then I get very dizzy.
Then after it gets bad, I'm not able to tell where other things are around me and I start to bump in to stuff. The only way to get this to settle down is if I go "rest my eyes".
Does this sound at all like what you deal with? Let me know because I may have some answers for you.
Mary
Posted by Geet3721 (Member # 15751) on :
WOW, I get the same thing I work in an office with Florescent lighting and at a computer, I too feel like it is something with my eyes. I am better when I leave the office but when I'm at work I feel dizzy and tired and just crappy.
I also work on the tenth floor I thought maybe that mattered but I don't think so, I think its the focusing and the lights. Good Luck with it and let me know if you can figure out how to solve this I'm always interested in suggestions.
Posted by AmyPW8 (Member # 11504) on :
I think it is lights. I have to keep my office lights off when I am work. But I agree that sitting at a computer can make it a lot worse! My laptop affects me more than a PC. Posted by havefaith377 (Member # 15250) on :
Well, I'm glad it is not just me (though I hate for all of you to feel the same). Mary, I do get dizzy when I have to look at a lot of things...and looking quickly, or scanning, definitely makes it worse. I have to just close my eyes and refocus. Any advice to help this would be great.
Posted by Alv (Member # 15192) on :
before my lyme became active I felt the same way .
The computer , the carpet , the air , the bugs around that we collect from other peopel , the light !
The oksigen level is very low for us when our liver is so toxic and we can not deal with too much bugs around and too much toxins everywhere in our body and brain!
I always felt better in the weekend.JUST sitting on the computer made me sick.I compleined for my eyes since 5 years ago.Nothing helped.
The higher the load the worst!!
NOw I know the answer as before I could see that i was getting worst.The onnly place that i felt good was afternoon at teh beach ( I could not handle the sun anymore).Far away from everything , no EMF , no mold no NOTHING!
So my body had just the bugs and nothing else on top of it.
Have you noticed a moisture day after the rain ..if feels like mold comming out from the ground and flying and you do not even see it.Spores ...on top of lyme toxins!!
Posted by Hoosiers51 (Member # 15759) on :
As far as fluorescent lights go, they do not provide a constant stream of light, like an incandescent bulb, but rather, they flicker at such a fast rate it LOOKS like a constant stream of light.
The brain has to process these constant flickers, coming at you non-stop! You are being bombarded with them. For some people, processing these constant bursts of light is an overwhelming task. It is not just a Lymie thing either.....some people just do not do well with them, but for US, it's even more understandable.
Another thing you may want to consider is EMFs.....I do not do well with electrical things right up against my body, or too close to me. Everyone is different with what they can tolerate. Most people don't notice ANY difference, some people are very sensitive though.
Do you keep your cell phone really close to you? Are you on a portable phone a lot? Do you sit right up against an electrical device? A powerful fan? Do you have to use some sort of "scanner"? Do you have some sort of large, old time digital clock with the red numbers on your desk? A clock radio? Just things to consider.
For example, when I would get electrical muscle stimulation at my chiropractor's, it affected me severely b/c of the electricity. My cell phone also bothers me.
Then again, it could just be a lot of things at once.....the fatigue, etc. For me, showering in the morning wears me out a lot.....could be the drop in blood pressure from the heat.
Good luck!
Posted by Piegirl (Member # 14786) on :
Well, I have to leave to go have lunch with my dad. So, I'll make it short for now and come back and add more later.
Havefaith, one of my "tricks" when I feel this IS to close my eyes and refocus, like you said. A couple months ago I did some research on this here and found out to do this to help.
Before hearing others experiences I had no idea that it had to do with my eyes. So, I didn't know how to help it.
Also, (I know this isn't the answer you want to hear) slowing down can really help alot. If in stores, it takes longer if your going slower but, at least you don't get disoriented/dizzy.
There are some other pointers mentioned on here before but, I have to find the threads. I'll do that when I get back.
There is something called vision therapy that is supposed to help this. I have heard good things about it. There is a website for that. I have to find that too.
I told my LLND about my "eye" problems. She knew what I was talking about. Her best friend is an eye doctor who does vision therapy here in my town.
My naturopath told me to hold off on doing this until the Lyme gets more stable. Otherwise, the vision therapy would not "hold".
I had a couple good days this past couple weeks. One of them happened to be a day that I worked. I didn't notice any problem with the dizzyness that day.
I'm starting to think that I may not need vision therapy once I'm all better. Maybe, it has to do with toxins in the brain? What do you all think?
I guess this wan't a short post after all. Oh well. I try to post the threads and website later.
Mary
Posted by havefaith377 (Member # 15250) on :
Thanks Mary. I appreciate your help. I do know that I 'failed' an eye exam at my first LLMD
appt. last week. Not a vision test, though I for the life of me cannot remember what it
actually tested. Thanks again.
Posted by kam (Member # 3410) on :
Went to a class this weekend on disabilities.
The teacher mentioned having the student sit in a spot where there was not the flourescent lighting.
Another teacher mentioned that she covered her flourescent lights with blue paper to help her disabled students.
Sorry, haven't read all the posts.
Smells set me off
And the computer
And movement around me
And sound (Saw an ad recently from a company that has noiseless ear plugs or phones.
it is tricky trying to figure out what to fix when so many things need fixing.
Posted by kam (Member # 3410) on :
Went to a class this weekend on disabilities.
The teacher mentioned having the student sit in a spot where there was not the flourescent lighting.
Another teacher mentioned that she covered her flourescent lights with blue paper to help her disabled students.
Sorry, haven't read all the posts.
Smells set me off
And the computer
And movement around me
And sound (Saw an ad recently from a company that has noiseless ear plugs or phones.
it is tricky trying to figure out what to fix when so many things need fixing.
I hear there is a screen you can put over your computer screen to help.
Just bring your gun and shoot people when they walk buy or use perfume.
That ought to take care of that obstacle.
Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
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The fact that someone can even GET to work is amazing to me.
Even if so, one trip to a loud and chemically overloaded restroom to freshen up would just knock me out for the rest of the day.
Noiseless ear plugs? - sorry - they do not exist. Ear plugs do not block out everything and can increase the tinnitus for those who have that. Vibrations still can cause vertigo while wearing ear plugs.
However, do try out various types as they are still a vital tool.
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The flourescent lights? YES
The sounds - of EVERYTHING, EVERYONE ? YES
The smells? YES
The MOTION of EVERYONE? YES
The stripes from window blinds? YES
A patterned wall paper or a hanging mobile - or a co-worker's shirt? YES
The rings of telephones, beeps and buzzes of other machines? YES
Ear plugs that , sometimes, actually makes some of this worse (the vibration travels through bone) - and by blocking the balance pathway? YES
The stress on the inner ear/vestibiular system as it works to maintain balance (or fails to do so)? YES, YES, YES.
The overload on the brain waves trying to track and process all the stimuli? YES
The resultant stress on the vagus nerve (resulting in nausea) - all the activity for other nervous systems to manage? YES
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What can help? Ginger. Rest. Vestibular training.
Most of all: treatment for infections and time.
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Lyme & TBD often causes a great deal of trouble for the inner/middle ear system. Even the slightest chemical smells upset the inner ear system.
Some keys to manage - or pinpoint some of this - are in this thread:
Topic: TINNITUS: Ringing Between The Ears; Vestibular, Balance, Hearing with compiled links
- by Kenneth B. Singleton , MD; James A. Duke. Ph.D. (Foreword)
You can read more about it and see customer reviews.
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My heart goes out to everyone who is responding.
I type this as I sit in a closet - for what will soon be obvious reasons. Just going out to get my mail is a dangerous event.
My hands keep me from offering more suggestions than below, but hope that helps. Treatment for lyme/TBD is most important.
Don't be disheartened with me as an example. I've never quite figured out my protocol (or my checkbook), but one supplement, in addition to ginger, is houttuynia. It helps relieve some of the inflammation. I've not had it for months and can tell a difference.
Do not take any sort of vertigo lightly. It is an enormous stress on the adrenal system, too. And that is ALWAYS stress on the heart - with excess cortisol.
Adrenal support ( NOT boosting) is essential.
Lying down, often, at a 20-30 degree incline for head - inner ear is most rested at this position.
Good luck to all. It's off to the ice packs now.
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Posted by havefaith377 (Member # 15250) on :
That makes perfect sense to me.
Posted by easypearls (Member # 16144) on :
I work in an outpatient hospital setting. The
fluorescent lights are killer. Heck, fluorescent
lights ANYWHERE are killer. I will turn out the
lights in rooms in which I'm holding group therapy
sessions, if necessary, when the lights are too
uncomfortable for me. The discomfort from
fluorescent lighting is usually compounded by all
our patients milling about between group sessions.
I find I become overloaded easily when there are a
lot of patients in attendance and I get caught in
a group of them in the hallway between groups. So
many people + so many voices going at once + so
many different color variations in clothing +
lighting + trying to focus on whatever task I may
be trying to complete = SERIOUS OVERLOAD. When
that happens, I have to go into my office, close
the door, turn off the lights, and sit down with
my eyes closed, breathing deeply. If I can manage
to center myself, it usually helps A LOT. The
sensory/cognitive overload puts me into a very
anxious state; by slowing down my breathing
(breathing deeply from the diaphragm) and clearing
my head, I can usually slow down my body
processes, which eases the overload.
Best,
L.
Posted by easypearls (Member # 16144) on :
Geet,
You mention you work on the 10th floor. Are you
often going up and down in the elevator? I find that
it takes me a while to find my land legs after
riding in an elevator. That most certainly
contributes to my dizziness.
L.
Posted by SForsgren (Member # 7686) on :
I'd go with mold as a possibility as well.
Posted by Piegirl (Member # 14786) on :
For those of you that are interested in your eyes making you dizzy:
So, I was able to find the website about vision therapy but, not the threads here that talked about eye problems.
The vision therapy website is some interesting reading even if you would not consider getting the therapy done. (Sorry I don't know how to make it where you can just click on it)
Make sure you click on all the different subheadings on the left side. There is alot of good info here which may explain some of our symptoms.
It doesn't mention lyme but, it does mention that these problems can be caused by a "neurological disease".
After rereading this website I realize I do still have alot of these symptoms (even on a good day). Once I get lyme more stable and if I'm still having these problems, I will probably do vision therapy and see if it helps.
I suffer from scanning problems (making me dizzy and a headache), trouble reading (my vision bounces around, can't keep my place, makes me tired), amoung others.
When I was at my worst four years ago my vision symptoms were much worse. I couldn't focus on a object for more then a couple seconds. My eyes just wouldn't do it.
They jumped around at all times. I would say at this time I was about how Keebler described. (I'm so sorry you deal with all this Keebler, it is very hard).
Another small pointer: If you have problems in stores when you go down aisles and all the shelves flying by make you dizzy, focus on something far in front of you that is NOT moving and stare at that while you walk. It really helps.
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