Needing something to address hypercoagulation (I failed three out of four markers on Hemex's Mocha panel)--I tried heparin but it kept raising my liver enzymes. I bought some of the supplements suggested here on lymenet (thanks everybody!)
Quick question on timing--I haven't been able to find clear info on whether or not you can take Boluoke, Serrapeptase & Rechts Regulat at the same time or if you have to separate them each by two hours. For instance, a rep. of Boluoke said to take it 2 hrs. apart from digestive enzymes...
Can't figure out how to separate them and still eat at all Maybe I should just rotate them? Anybody taking them all?
Posted by TerryK (Member # 8552) on :
I take enteric coated digestive enzymes and Serrapeptase together. I've seen blends with both of those in them but I can't give you any citations that prove that they are OK to take together.
I use muscle testing and it checked out fine for me but I can't say whether it would work for you.
I did 2 bottles of the Rechts Regulat and didn't notice any difference. At $90 a pop it was proving to be to expensive for me.
Posted by mojo (Member # 9309) on :
I would think it would be one or the other for the Serrapeptase and the Bouloke and not both but I'm not a doctor. I jus think they both treat the same thing.
I am currently using Serrapeptase but I've read the the Bouloke gets to the biofilms so that may be the better choice.
Just thinking out loud. Have you asked your doctor about it?
Posted by Lymetoo (Member # 743) on :
Why take all 3?? Just take adequate amounts of ONE.
I would get a test to make sure you're not thinning your blood too much.
Posted by hanginginthere (Member # 11685) on :
Thanks everyone. I guess I mistakenly thought they each did something a little different...so they were each necessary!
I did ask my LLMD but he hadn't heard of Rechts Regulat & didn't know about taking bouluke and serrapeptase together. Nice to know I should just do one at a time.
Other than having another Hemex panel done, maybe I'll be able to tell if the bouluke is working by my platelet count? Platelets are always (I mean always!) over 450 (except on heparin).
Thanks again for the help! You guys are great!!
Posted by Nutmeg (Member # 7250) on :
My LLND said to rotate enzymes for hypercoagulation to keep the bugs from adjusting.
I'm taking Bulouke now, and my ND said to switch to Serrapeptase next month or so.
I was thinking of trying Rechts Regulat as well. Does it taste bad? I'm taking some other oily stuff right now (for mycoplasma) that is extremely awful, so I'm not anxious to add another baddie to my protocol. If it works, though...
I'm not sure what all is in the Hemex blood panel, but I get my CRP and fibrinogen tested once a month, since they are both very high.
My CRP goes up and down a lot, but after I started high doses of Bulouke and plant enzymes before breakfast and dinner (3 caps twice a day of each) my CRP went from 16+ to 10+ in one month. I'll get it checked again in a week.
CRP is a marker for inflammation, called C-reactive protein. The test is called CRP, hs (highly sensitive).
Hope this helps, Nutmeg
Posted by SForsgren (Member # 7686) on :
I personally would take Serrapeptase with Boluoke OR RR, but not all 3.
Posted by Lymetoo (Member # 743) on :
I know my LLMD said there is a test they can use specifically to test the levels of Boluoke's effectiveness.
Posted by Cass A (Member # 11134) on :
My bottles of lumbrokinase (same as boluke) say it may not work if taken with another enzyme product.
As for the taste of Rechts Regulat, it's kind of like sauerkraut--it's the juice of fermented vegetables. If you put it in distilled water, it's not bad.
Of course, you shouldn't put it in juice or food, as it needs to be taken by itself 1/2 hour or more before eating or 2 hours or more after. Otherwise, you just took some VERY EXPENSIVE digestive enzymes!!
It depends on what you're trying to achieve. Rechts Regulat definitely thinned my blood out. The other enzyme products I've taken haven't had such an obvious effect in that quarter.
Gigi says that once you get things under control with Rechts Regulat you can take a VERY small dose each day. I have no personal experience with trying that approach.
By the way, you can't get Rechts Regulat through Biopure any longer. When I called about it today, I was refered to www.ink.stuttgart.de to purchase it.
Lumbrokinase specifically eats fibrin in the brain and clears up that area.
Dr. K, in his article on Lyme, states that Nattokinase stops working after about 6 weeks.
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Maybe I should just rotate them? Anybody taking them all?