I noticed that simple green is claimed to be non-toxic, yet its a super strong detergent of sorts.
I had a notion that it could dissolve the biofilms and not kill me.
I placed a pin drop onto a blood drop with moving invaders...and they all appeared to die instantly.
So, rather then drink it, and yes, years ago they used to promote the product in malls by having this one guy drink it...they stopped, but the man was not harmed.
Anyway, I soaked my feet in a almost pure simple green concentrate for about 5 hours last night...and today...I found almost no moving bugs...um, I saw 1.
But I have also taken laruicidin and minocin and alinila...but it appears that the simple green did major damage. I cannot recommed this but, I am considering doing soaks every few days.
Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
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It's a cleaning solution. It will KILL FISH.
Soaking one's feet in it may be dangerous. Skin absorbs a lot. Even breathing it is dangerous, according to the product sheet:
Material Safety Data Sheet: Simple Green� All-Purpose Cleaner
Excerpts:
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Adequate ventilation should be present when using Simple Green� over a prolonged period of time. Open windows or ventilate via fan or other air moving equipment if necessary.
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The only ingredient of Simple Green� with established exposure limits is undiluted 2-butoxyethanol . . . .
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Environmental Toxicity Information: It is important not to allow the runoff from cleaning into closed systems such as decorative ponds. Always protect closed systems with tarps or dikes if necessary.
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This material contains 2-Butoxyethanol . . . which is subject to the reporting requirements of Section 313 of SARA Title III and 49 CFR Part 373
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Posted by seekhelp (Member # 15067) on :
Wow, I don't think I'd try that with a 10 ft pole!
Posted by jamescase20 (Member # 14124) on :
A guy used to drink this stuff as a promo.
Posted by chamade (Member # 11472) on :
People do all kinds of not-so-smart things, especially for money.
Posted by merrygirl (Member # 12041) on :
James,
In my opinion, you need to stop doing these types of experiments before you cause harm to yourself or before someone copies you and gets hurt or sick.
Posted by jamescase20 (Member # 14124) on :
OMGosh.
Take it easy!
I am sure its safe.
I am also sure that I have exposed myself to higher levels of more toxic cleaners via simply cleaning the house.
Posted by Melanie Reber (Member # 3707) on :
"A key ingredient of Simple Green is butyl cellosolve, a substance considered toxic by the federal government that can be absorbed through the skin or inhaled, possibly destroying red blood cells, among other potential dangers."
What Is Butyl Cellosolve And Why You Should Avoid It.
Butyl Cellosolve is a chemical that is found in a wide variety of household cleaning agents - glass cleaners, oven cleaners, general degreasers, spot removers, air fresheners, and carpet cleaners, among other things. It is a colorless liquid with a sweet, ether-like odour and is manufactured by the Eastman Kodak company. But why should you look out for it?
It is also known as butyl glycol, Dowanol, Bane-Clene and ethylene glycol monobutyl ether (EGBE), which has made it on to the list of California's toxic air substances, and some animal studies indicate that it produces reproductive problems, such as testicular damage, reduced fertility, death of embryos and birth defects. In humans, it can irritate mucous membranes and cause liver and kidney damage. Butyl cellosolve is also a neurotoxin that can depress the nervous system and cause a variety of associated problems. Sounds like something we should be using around our house, no?
So let this serve as yet another example of a dangerous toxic chemical that is prevalent on our grocery store shelves. Before you buy a cleaning product, be sure to read the label and look for this ingredient under one of its ``pseudonyms'' above. Ideally, you want to avoid toxic cleaners at all, but if you cannot, be cautious when using anything with this ingredient in it!
Butyl Cellosolve (Ethylene Glycol Monobutyl Ether or 2-Butoxy Ethanol) is commonly used in many carpet presprays because it is a unique solvent that is soluble in water yet is so strong that it is commonly used in wax strippers and heavy-duty ready-to-use cleaners. However, Butyl Cellosolve is absorbed through the skin and lungs and may be harmful to the kidneys and liver.
* 2-Butoxy Ethanol can affect you when breathed in and by passing through your skin. * Exposure may cause reproductive damage. handle with extreme caution. * Exposure to 2-Butoxy Ethanol can irritate the eyes, nose, mouth and throat. * 2-Butoxy Ethanol can cause headache, dizziness, lightheadedness, confusion, and passing out. * 2-Butoxy Ethanol may damage the liver and kidneys. * 2-Butoxy Ethanol is regulated by OSHA cited by ACGIH, DOT and NISOH.
Published on Wednesday, February 9, 2005 by the Boston Globe
Eco-Products in Demand, but Labels Can be Murky - by Beth Daley
Deep green in color and with an aroma of fresh sassafras, Simple Green is a popular household cleaner marketed to environmentally concerned consumers. It bills itself as nontoxic, the ''safer alternative" to other cleaners.
But one of Simple Green's key ingredients is the same toxic solvent that can be found in traditional all-purpose cleaners such as Formula 409 and Windex, a fact that consumers cannot discern from the products' labels.
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Posted by not so sublime lyme (Member # 15185) on :
James,
What does your family think of your experiments? I'm worried about you and I think they probably are too.
I think it's time to give your body a break and just stick to your basic meds for awhile.
Take care. Jeanne
Posted by sparkle7 (Member # 10397) on :
Maybe try Miracle Soap II? I heard this product is good... I never tried it, though. It may be less toxic than the other soap.
When you use alot of different stuff - it's hard to tell which is working.
In vitro is different than in vivo...
I'd be careful with some of these things.
BTW - I use baking soda as toothpaste & it works great.
Posted by hiker53 (Member # 6046) on :
Some newbie is going to come to this site and think Super Green is a good cure for lyme and ruin their bodies totally.
James, Just because something may kill lyme, does not mean it is safe for the body.
SUPER GREEN IS NOT SAFE FOR YOUR BODY!!!!!!
Posted by groovy2 (Member # 6304) on :
Hey Sparkel--
Yep Baking soda will clean your teeth perty good but you have to be careful if you are using straight out of a box -it has large grain size
In time it will wear the enamel off of your teeth-
The baking soda they put in tooth paste is milled down to a Much finer grain size-
-The tile cleaner stuff I talked about above is milled to Super Fine grain size-and is made of a softer material- Chalk-
It also works Much Better than Backing soda-
Posted by Lymetoo (Member # 743) on :
quote:Originally posted by hiker53: Some newbie is going to come to this site and think Super Green is a good cure for lyme and ruin their bodies totally.
James, Just because something may kill lyme, does not mean it is safe for the body.
SUPER GREEN IS NOT SAFE FOR YOUR BODY!!!!!! [/QB]
ditto!
Posted by sparkle7 (Member # 10397) on :
Thanks Groovy! I was wondering about the baking soda. I ran out of toothpaste & started using it. It seemed to work better than the expensive healthfood store toothpaste I was buying.
I had a feeling that baking soda may have some short comings...
Some people use salt as toothpaste, as well.
I heard that chalk can be abrasive, too.
Posted by merrygirl (Member # 12041) on :
baking soda is one thing but tile cleaner??? Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
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Tile cleaner can be very dangerous. What we put on our skin and into our mouths gets absorbed within 26 seconds - or sooner in some cases. And I would be very worried about the whitening effect and enamel.
Our teeth need to last forever. We can't take chances. Some of the highly-touted whitening products have caused many people great pain. A baking soda solution works fine for me. Not startling white, but clean.
My dentist says baking soda is wonderful. He says to use a soft bristle toothbrush and let it dissolve so that there is no worry about scratching. You can put a bit of the past in your mouth and wait about ten seconds and most granules will be dissolved.
I've done this for a year and he says all is splendid.
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Posted by sparkle7 (Member # 10397) on :
I researched it about baking soda - (it's from the Arm & Hammer website - so just ignore the toothpaste advertising)
Why is Baking Soda considered an ideal cleaning agent?
ARM & HAMMER Dental Care�, ARM & HAMMER� PeroxiCare� and ARM & HAMMER� Advance White� toothpastes use baking soda as a primary cleaning agent. In fact, ARM & HAMMER� has more products that use baking soda as the sole cleaning agent than any other brand.
Other baking soda dentifrice products use relatively low levels of Baking Soda (5%-25%) and consequently need to employ an abrasive agent, such as silica, to actually clean the teeth.
As a cleaning agent, baking soda is less abrasive than virtually any other cleaning agent used in toothpastes.
Less abrasion means less tooth wear, which helps keep your teeth healthier, longer. And when it comes to cleaning, recent studies indicate that baking soda in high concentrations, like those found in most ARM & HAMMER� toothpastes, break down into tiny particles that are able to penetrate enamel crevices and remove food particles and deep stain embedded there.
Other cleaning agents, like silica, don't readily break down into such tiny particles, so they are too big to clean inside the enamel crevices.
Besides cleaning, what else does the Baking Soda in my Toothpaste do?
In addition to cleaning well and delivering fluoride, baking soda toothpaste provides many additional functional benefits that separate it from other toothpastes:
Baking Soda is gentle--it has significantly lower enamel and dentin abrasivity than the cleaning agents (i.e. silica) used in conventional toothpastes.
Baking Soda freshens--it imparts a distinct freshness and clean-mouth feel (which has proven itself to help promote compliance with a sound oral hygiene regimen, i.e., brushing after meals).
Baking Soda deodorizes--it provides superiority compared to conventional toothpastes in deodorancy control due to its unique ability to reduce acids in the mouth.
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I would avoid the tile cleaner & Simple Green as medical or hygiene products...
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