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Posted by Raymond (Member # 13980) on :
 
http://www.natmeds.net/downloads/Fibrinogen.pdf

In this web they mention way to reduce or treat abundant fibrin.

Is anyone aware of this method who can comment on it....

Funny thing that's what nodules,cysts, granulomas are infections being protect by some form of encasement..

I may give them a call next week if I remember...Wonder what kind of blood tests are run to detect this and what type of Doc can do this???

Maybe this has been addressed before but it's new to me...

I have an e mail into 1st Chinese out in Washington maybe Fred can say something about this
 
Posted by KirstenS (Member # 15146) on :
 
I am not sure what natural supplement you are looking into from this article. I wasn't able to find it. I found it very interesting and a bit scary due to the fact that I was in the hight risk area.

I actually am using a natural supplement to dissolve the fibrin. The base of the supplement is made from earthworm spit and it is amazing. It is able to dissolve the clots with no side effects.

Here are my levels to show you how it has worked for me:
Fibrin monomer- positive

Prothrombin fragment 1.2 reference range 41-372
my level 5660

thrombin-antithrombin reference range <4
my range >60

I was able to bring my levels done to normal reference range within 6 months.

Being on the very high end of the danger zone my dr. didn't want to give me heparin because of all the side effects.

He explained that earthworms could move through the earth with just using their spit to dissolve the earth.

It was studied years ago if earthworms can dissolve the earth with their spit maybe they can dissolve blood clots. It is amazing stuff and the fact that it is natural is always a plus..
 
Posted by KirstenS (Member # 15146) on :
 
phew, whatever it is it works! lol! [lol]

The concept started with earthworm spit so I just use that when telling people It's easier!
 
Posted by Lymetoo (Member # 743) on :
 
You can use lumbrokinase [the earthworm], nattokinase, serrapeptase, bromelain, Rechts Regulat, and others.

Go to www.hemex.com to learn more about fibrinogen testing and treatment.

You need an ISAC panel.
 
Posted by Raymond (Member # 13980) on :
 
Need a doctor who understands this stuff...aside from just giving ABs

Is there any other labs that do this? Dry ice , do this and that....why isn't this stuff easier for this purpose?

Wonder if a regular doc has any idea about this stuff? Can natuopaths draw blood or have it drawn..

Kristin who drew your bloods, PCP or LLMD?
 
Posted by KirstenS (Member # 15146) on :
 
My llmd was the one who orderd the test. He saw something earlier on in my blood that made a flag go up.

Luckily he was able to catch it before something seriously went wrong.

The problem with a lot of the tests that he has ordered is the labs have no idea about them.
 
Posted by Raymond (Member # 13980) on :
 
Kristin,

What lab did he use and can you PM me your LLMD?

What was the red flag? I have 30% carotid and my PTT was normal but still had a ** next to it. You know what something is outta wack...like this disease...

Thanks
 
Posted by Lymetoo (Member # 743) on :
 
Raymond, my LLMD used Hemex lab to test. Any doctor can do testing thru them.

a low sed rate COULD be indicative of a hypercoagulation problem.
 
Posted by Raymond (Member # 13980) on :
 
lYMETOO

Funny you mention a low ESR which I have...I just blows my mind that NO ONE picks up on the normal is 0-15 I think or 1-15 mine is 2.

WHY DO WE HAVE TO FIT THE PIECES TOGETHER...This is why I look for other LLMD's that may understand these things and how they fit into my picture....
 
Posted by pamoisondelune (Member # 11846) on :
 
I take nattokinase. Nattokinase is fibrinolytic.

It has a good reputation for preventing blood clots among some people prone to blood clots. Last i heard it wasn't medically proven,; but my information is not current. I heard that it can clean out the arteries too.

Some brands are better or worse than others; you have to be careful. NSK-SD is more reliable than NSK; NSK-SD means they are making it following the Japanese patent. (i think). Cheap brands may not be potent.

I don't know if this is true, but on one herbal website i think i read that Andrographis is thrombolytic and thrombinolytic.

Someone is taking Plavix to lower platelet count. I found that EGCG (green tea extract) pills lowered my platelet counts reliably. I could predict my platelet counts by whether i had been taking more or less EGCG pills. A moderate effect though; the drug is prbably stronger.

---from pamois
 
Posted by Lymetoo (Member # 743) on :
 
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Originally posted by Raymond:
lYMETOO

Funny you mention a low ESR which I have...I just blows my mind that NO ONE picks up on the normal is 0-15 I think or 1-15 mine is 2.

WHY DO WE HAVE TO FIT THE PIECES TOGETHER....?

I know....makes you angry, doesn't it!? Mine is a 3!... and I have hypercoagulation.
 


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