after being on treatment for bartonella for 16 months I was now diagnosed with morgellons ( ART-testing). I would be interested in possible treatment, blood testing or doctors.
I was told MMS might work and also told to add allicin (garlic).
Bartonella and morgellons have similar symptoms. Everyone who is not getting better with bartonella, please consider morgellons.
[ 04. December 2008, 01:08 PM: Message edited by: karenl ]
Posted by glm1111 (Member # 16556) on :
Hi karen,
What are your symptoms? I think Morgellons and Lyme are the same thing. Dr William Harvey M.D. believes that the "fibers" are actually filarial worms.
You can see photos of them on www.lymephotos.com I have had the same parasites/worms come out of me. What kind of tx are you doing?,
Gael
Posted by sparkle7 (Member # 10397) on :
Some people say colloidal silver is helpful.
Posted by jwf (Member # 6292) on :
Hi Karen,
Both my wife and I managed to beat Morgellons and Lyme using mostly herbs. The most frequent Morgellon symptom is the presence of fibers and a stinging, itching type of polyneuropathy. Some have lesions, some don't.
The fibers are not quite as wide as your normal hair, so you can get a handheld pocket scope from Radio Shack for about $10.00 and easily see clear, black, blue, and red fibers. The Tulsa FBI lab hasn't been able to match these with any manmade or natural fibers.
We recommend the Kyolic 103 for several reasons: includes Olive Leaf Extract, Oregano, a Mushroom complex, and the fermented garlic. I also like the relatively new Allimax formulation from the British.
What are your symptoms that you attribute to bartonella that may match those of someone with Morgellons? Check my posts for the full herbal ap- proach, if you are interested.
Blue Skies.......John
Posted by karenl (Member # 17753) on :
Many thanks for the quick reply to Gael,John and Sparkle. Let me get started with my symptoms: 1. extreme fatigue, cannot be on my legs for more than minutes,always have to sit down, just feel horrible. 1.red dots, red lines 3.black little dots 4.little bites or scratches on skin 5. all these wounds are not healing 6.headache 7.pain in eye, last weeks like sharp and short 8. floaters, black dot 9.nodules under skin, white yellow 10.veins still big but better, still looking blue under skin 11.pain in liver and spleen 12.muscle pain ( arms, legs, back) 13.after rifing for bartonella ( I found out one frequ. covers also morg.)I get many little red then dark dots, later black, covering all my lower legs and feet, but also some on body. 14. leg is vibrating really bad esp. the big muscles and the feet 15. tingling in feet and hands 16. in fingers I feel the separate moving of something, a little sharp 17. stiff hands in the morning 18. little red fibers (4 mm) under skin. 18. right hand is numb 19. brain problems 20. bites in bladder
I was on carnivora for three days and everything got worse. Same happened with wobenzym and cellulase. Also the honey was doing sth.
The last 16 months I was on 15 HH ( according to my doctor who is convinced I have bartonella). Since 4 weeks I also take 3 artemisia a day ( but lab test was neg.)I feel better with artemisia. I take oregano oil on my muscles which helps for pain. Today I started allicin. My bartonella was tested by Fry labs. Morgellons tested only by ART testing. My ART practitioner wants me to start tomorrow with MMS ( the chlor...). I appreciate all your ideas. Karen