Its a simple question, I dont think my brain can make sense of all the mumbo jumbo articles.
Should I take magnesium malate?
[ 04-23-2009, 11:17 AM: Message edited by: lymeHerx001 ]
Posted by lymeHerx001 (Member # 6215) on :
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Posted by hoot (Member # 19281) on :
For some reason I think MgCl is better.
Hoot
Posted by Marnie (Member # 773) on :
MgCl does look to be the preferred form.
Especially after "electromagnetic" therapies.
But...many years ago...Dr.Pierre Delbet (and subsequently a few other doctors) used MgCl to cure a number of very serious infections.
Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
Dr. Burrascano's Treatment Guidelines, 16th edition, October, 2008
From a word search of this document, nine mentions of magnesium were found. All of those are included in these excerpts:
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Page 6:
Magnesium deficiency is very often present and quite severe.
Hyperreflexia, muscle twitches, myocardial irritability, poor stamina and recurrent tight muscle spasms are clues to this deficiency.
Magnesium is predominantly an intracellular ion, so blood level testing is of little value.
Oral preparations are acceptable for maintenance, but those with severe deficiencies need additional, parenteral dosing: 1 gram IV or IM at least once a week until neuromuscular irritability has cleared.
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Page 25:
Levofloxacin is generally well tolerated, with almost no stomach upset. Very rarely, it can cause confusion- this is temporary (clears in a few days) and may be relieved by lowering the dose.
There is, however, one side effect that would require it to be stopped- it may cause a painful tendonitis, usually of the largest tendons. If this happens, then the levofloxacin must be stopped or tendon rupture may occur.
It has been suggested that loading the patient with magnesium may prevent this problem, and if the tendons do become affected, parenteral high dose vitamin C (plus parenteral magnesium) may afford rapid relief.
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Page 28 (in the supplement section):
6. MAGNESIUM (required)
Magnesium supplementation is very helpful for the tremors, twitches, cramps, muscle soreness, heart skips and weakness. It may also help in energy level and cognition.
The best source is magnesium L-lactate dehydrate (``Mag-tab SR'', sold by Niche Pharmaceuticals: 1-800-677-0355, and available at Wal-Mart).
DO NOT rely on ``cal-mag'', calcium plus magnesium combination tablets, as they are not well absorbed. Take at least one tablet twice daily.
Higher doses increase the benefit and should be tried, but may cause diarrhea. In some cases, intramuscular or intravenous doses may be necessary.
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OTHER OPTIONAL SUPPLEMENTS
VITAMIN D
Surprisingly, most people in America are vitamin D deficient. In the Lyme patient, low vitamin D levels can cause diffuse body aches and cramps that are not responsive to magnesium or calcium supplements.
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- Entire 37-page document at link above.
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Posted by lymeparfait (Member # 14268) on :
Any thoughts on trans dermal magnesium sprays or creams?
Are they better absorbed than pill form?
LP
Posted by sammy (Member # 13952) on :
My ND recommended Mag Malate for me. Said that it is more easily absorbed than some of the other forms and is good for neuropathy.
I take "NOW" brand Mag Malate 150mg per tab, about 8 tabs per day.
Posted by Cass A (Member # 11134) on :
I like Peter Gilliam's CALM.
It goes completely into solution with hot water, making it immediately available.
The pills tend to go through the body like little rocks, and come out....well, the same.
Best,
Cass A
Posted by Larkspur (Member # 5131) on :
I am currently using Mag Citrate cream by health pro labs - I have noticed a huge benefit from the cream vs taking Mag orally - my muscle spasms are sooooo much better
Posted by orrn (Member # 6672) on :
No Walmart stores in my area carry Mag-Tab SR or have ever heard of it! Wonder why?
orrn
Posted by lymeHerx001 (Member # 6215) on :
I was looking for magnesium L-lactate dehydrate too.
Cant find it.
Mag Citrate just causes diahorrea for me.
I want the magnessium to go directlly to the muscles and nerves and lessen my pain and save my tendons.
Any more info?
Thanks again for taking the time to respond to this thread. My attention is low allready.
When I search documents I get easily confuesed.
Its better in little doses of text like this thread. Posted by lymeparfait (Member # 14268) on :
I just ordered a spray form of magnesium to try called Derma Mag. Also I heard there is another type of oil made by global light that goes directly on the skin and penetrates into the muscles.
anyone else try anr form of topical mag?
Posted by Marnie (Member # 773) on :
I have MgCl which I can dilute to a 50% solution to be applied on the skin.
I got it over the internet.
Epsom salts (baths) ARE a topical form of Mg...just MgSO4 instead.
If you think we don't absorb it...stay in the lukewarm bath for a long time...and you WILL spend a lot of time on the "throne".
A 20 minute bath will not cause this. It is important the water not be hot...detox is not the idea.
Mg-Tab SR is a drop in the bucket!
The percentage drop in Mg at the outset of lyme is astounding...and it continues to spiral down. (Romanian abstract).
We need sufficient Mg (and Ca) to make HEALTHY, not "fab" damaged antibodies to Bb's OspB (outer surface protein B). (documented, Pubmed)
Posted by lymeHerx001 (Member # 6215) on :
great response marnie, so its a yes,
though you recommend epsom salt baths.
But at this point anything would help I would imagine.
Is it not an essential mineral for us affected?
What about mycoplasma infections?
Posted by Jasmin (Member # 19959) on :
I have another magnesium question. I notice my multivitamin and mineral bottles, the RDA value of magnesium is significantly less than some of the other minerals. I figured it was because one of the minerals or vitamins would counteract magnesium absorption or the other way around. Any info on this? Should I be separating my magnesium supplement from my other vitamins and minerals to get the best absorption?
Posted by Marnie (Member # 773) on :
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