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Posted by Starfall1969 (Member # 17353) on :
 
My chiropractor told me that a good way to detox is to eat a few slices of fresh beets, half an apple and a handful of baby carrots every day.

Almost sounds too simple to me.

Has anyone else ever heard this?

I've been drinking lemon water every day, and today I just feel super toxic, so I'm thinking of trying this this evening--

what do I have to lose?

She's usually one who pushes natural supplements and herbals, but she advised me against doing any kind of herbal detox, at least initially, because she felt that might be too harsh.

My LLMD hasn't said anything about detoxing yet.
 
Posted by sixgoofykids (Member # 11141) on :
 
I juice beets, apples, carrots, celery .... it is good for detox.
 
Posted by feelfit (Member # 12770) on :
 
I juice a 1/4 beet, one apple, 3 carrots, 3 celery stalks, one lemon, per day. I also add 6 tablespoons of chlorophyl to this.

I have been doing it for two weeks and I don't smell or feel toxic. Beets are very good for the liver, my chiropractor recommended beets along time ago, but I didn't listen [Frown]

I think that live foods have very beneficial effects.....

You're right, worth a try!

Feelfit
 
Posted by MorningSong (Member # 19989) on :
 
I wanted to juice but was concerned that the sugar in the carrots and beets would feed the Lyme. Has anyone had trouble with symptoms getting worse. I wanted to build my immune system by juicing, but had this concern.
 
Posted by Ocean (Member # 3496) on :
 
Morning,

Not from my experience it doesn't feed the Lyme. I read one article that the caratonoids (the orange color) is actually ANTIBACTERIAL!

Juicing has helped me tremendously in the past, and I mean a LOT!

Take care,
Ocean
 
Posted by Jasmin (Member # 19959) on :
 
I can't stomach beet juice anymore. Well, I guess I could have changed in a year, but the smell makes me sick after a long time of drinking beet and other vegetable juices.

What I've been adding to my lemon carrot juice is dandelion greens! It's not so bad, not like you would think anyway. But I'm running out of dandelions fast.


Anyway, that's all I've been doing along with watching my diet and taking bentonite, psylium, and magnesium. Oh, and epsom salt ginger baths along with yarrow and ginger tea and skin brushing. I was feeling awful a week ago, and I think I've got some of those toxins out since I'm getting some of my energy back.
 
Posted by sparkle7 (Member # 10397) on :
 
I think juicing is great. Apples, carrots, beets, celery, lemons, parsley, pears, etc. are wonderful. Use more greens if you don't want too much sugar.

It's time consuming, though & it's a bit of a mess to clean everything.
 
Posted by MorningSong (Member # 19989) on :
 
I am thankful for this topic as I have been researching the internet whether juicing carrots is okay with Lyme.

It sounds like everyone has had good experience with it not feeding the Lyme. Is it okay to start if you still have a lot of symptoms or is it good to wait until stronger?

Sorry for all the questions, just wanting to build my immune system and be careful with the Lyme at the same time.
 
Posted by feelfit (Member # 12770) on :
 
Morning,

I have a lot of symptoms and jucing makes me feel better!

You are getting essential vitamins in their natural live form, nothing better for you.

Feelfit
 
Posted by sixgoofykids (Member # 11141) on :
 
I wouldn't worry about the sugar in fresh juice because it has soooo much good stuff in it. If you're low blood sugar like I am, you might do like I do and drink it as a "cocktail" before dinner. I usually have mine about 30 min to an hour before dinner.

Some days I put beets in, others I do not. Beets are strong, so you don't need/want to use the whole beet.
 
Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
 
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Baby carrots are often processed in liquids to peel the skin off. It's best to buy YOUNG carrots that are organic.

The beta carotene in vegetables can help the liver tremendously, and help to decrease porphyrins which are a result of some infections and also from certain meds if the liver is stressed.

The beta carotene helps that all work better.

-=
 
Posted by Starfall1969 (Member # 17353) on :
 
Thanks for all the responses.

I tried it last night, and I feel a little better this morning.

Still nauseated and kind of out of kilter, but at least I can move without the urge to puke.

I think I'm going to put a juicer on my Christmas list this year....
 
Posted by lad1121 (Member # 20133) on :
 
yes I have heard of this. My nutritionalist, who works right along side of my llmd. wants me to get a juicer and mix apples, and some carrots to detox.
 
Posted by cottonbrain (Member # 13769) on :
 
anybody know of a good juicer that is Easy (??) to clean?

i like juicing but the cleaning up part is exhausting
 
Posted by feelfit (Member # 12770) on :
 
My juiceman Jr. from wally world is very easy clean up. Plus you can put a whole apple or a whole lemon in the chute and it eats it right up.
 
Posted by 'Kete-tracker (Member # 17189) on :
 
Can't say that I've heard of THAT combo of 3. (But, then again... he's only a chiropractor...)

Still, juicing many of these above mentioned fruits & veggies can't hurt... and likely will help, by supplying extra anti-oxidants, vitamins & minerals.


SAY, ANYONE KNOW why Granny Smith apples are often referred to as Lyme-friendly apples?? They were even specifically mentioned in the 2005 Dr. B guidelines.
Why would Granny Smith be safer than, say, Rome or MacIntosh?
 
Posted by MorningSong (Member # 19989) on :
 
Just wanted to say thanks again for this topic. I saw the LLMD for the first time yesterday and she stated that juicing carrots and drinking lemon water are indeed very good and that I did not need to be concerned about feeding the Lyme.

This topic prompted me to talk to her. Thanks again.
 
Posted by sixgoofykids (Member # 11141) on :
 
Granny Smith are lower in sugar. That's why they are tart rather than sweet.

I also like the texture of a Granny Smith. The only time other apples taste that crisp and fresh is right off the tree.
 
Posted by Marnie (Member # 773) on :
 
I wondered about beets...because the "red" and "purple/blue" foods look to be very beneficial for us...the darker the color...esp. from an anti-oxidant standpoint.

http://www.everynutrient.com/healthbenefitsofbeets.html

Beet GREENS best? (Compare the nutrients in them.)

Or the "red":

Betacyanin and ICAM-1 inhibition?!


"betacyanins may act as ROS scavengers"


Go here first:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betalain

Near the bottom, click on ICAM-1 and read about that (inhibited)!

ICAM-1 (Inter-Cellular Adhesion Molecule 1) also known as CD54 (Cluster of Differentiation 54) is a human gene.

Upon cytokine stimulation, the concentrations greatly increase.

ICAM-1 can be induced by interleukin-1 (IL-1) and tumor necrosis factor alpha (TNFα), and is expressed by the vascular endothelium, macrophages, and lymphocytes.

ICAM-1 is a ligand for LFA-1 (integrin), a receptor found on leukocytes. When activated, *leukocytes binds to endothelial cells* via ICAM-1/LFA-1 and then transmigrates into tissues.

Lymphocyte function-associated antigen 1, also known as LFA-1 is found on all T-cells and also on B-cells, macrophages and neutrophils and is involved in recruitment to the site of infection.

(And Bb is found to INFECT our B cells, macrophages and neutrophils.)

Bb invades the epithelial cells (line our blood vessels) which signal the release of the cytokines -> increased adhesion upregulated between the epithelial cells and the WBCs which Bb then infects?

No adhesion, no infection?

Betacyanins = cancer fighting properties.
Look to cause cell death of some cells:

"Betanin treatment to the cells also induced the release of cytochrome c into the cytosol, poly (ADP) ribose polymerase (PARP) cleavage, down regulation Bcl-2, and

reduction in the membrane potentials.

Confocal microscopic studies on the cells treated with betanin suggest the entry of betanin into the cells.

These studies thus demonstrate that betanin induces apoptosis in K562 cells through the intrinsic pathway and is mediated by the release of cytochrome c from mitochondria into the cytosol, and PARP cleavage."

K562 = chronic myeloid leukemia cell line.

http://www.mitochondrial.net/showabstract.php?pmid=17482444

Death to infected cells = death to Bb also?

OR will this leave Bb "on the loose" again?

Destroy Bb FIRST by preventing Ca from exiting the infected cell (close the gates to TRRPM8 via photon transfer)?

Cancer cells typically have very few, if any mitochondria remaining.

[ 05-02-2009, 03:20 PM: Message edited by: Marnie ]
 
Posted by cottonbrain (Member # 13769) on :
 
spring,
what kind of blender do you use?


feelfit, thanks for the info. i'm going to check out the juiceman jr.

you all are making me hungry
 


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