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Posted by JJJ77 (Member # 19274) on :
 
Hello All!
Would anyone happen to know if Steroidal Nasal Sprays will adversely affect someone with Lyme?

I know systemic steroids are no good so wanted to check. Allergies are kicking in but not sure if I should still use my spray for my nasal and ear problems [Frown]

Any information is apprectiated!
 
Posted by Leelee (Member # 19112) on :
 
I don't know the answer to your question, but I was prescribed Nasonex last fall after I went to an allergist. He said I had rhinitis.

I had been told by so many doctors that I couldn't possibly have Lyme [dizzy] that I thought maybe it was allergies.

Of course, the Nasonex didn't help me since I did not have rhinitis. Turns out an LLMD later diagnosed me correctly with Lyme, Barts and Babs.
 
Posted by Tincup (Member # 5829) on :
 
Personally I had a horrible reaction to them. VERY bad.

But everyone is different.

Might ask your doctor's opinion?

Let us know what he/she says.

[Big Grin]

BTW- The best way for your body to naturally detox is through your skin... sweating.

The second way it detoxes is through the sinuses.

Thought that may help explain a little.

[Big Grin]
 
Posted by dguy (Member # 8979) on :
 
Nasonex was VERY bad news for me. Nearly a decade later I'm still suffering from it.
 
Posted by 'Kete-tracker (Member # 17189) on :
 
Plenty of allergy meds out there now that aren't steroid-based. (Not so 30 years ago when anything that really worked made ya drowsy. I should know.)
Does it Need to be a nasal spray? Is nasal inflammation a big problem for you?

Technically, steroidal nasal sprays re "topical", so any problems with Lyme are substantially reduced. Still, I'd choose a non-steroidal spray like azelastine (Trade name: Rhinolast) or ipratropium (Trade name: Rinatec) if you feel you need a spray.

I recall I tried a spray like Nasonex back in the early 90's; a "tall" rectangular, dark brown glass bottle with such a short base [where the actual liquid was] I thought it was a ripoff at $50. There was so little really in there.
I forget the name offhand. I know it was a 'script.
 
Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
 
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Even topical steroid creams can cause serious harm to lyme patients. I think the second link has that in its text, I know I read it somewhere.


Avoid ALL steroids, unless a life-threatening emergency or if eyesite or hearing are at risk - and then only with specific abx dosing prior to, if possible.

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"Steroid" search in:

http://www.ilads.org/lyme_disease/B_guidelines_12_17_08.pdf


Dr. Burrascano'sTreatment Guidelines (2008)


P. 4:

. . .

More severe illness also results from other causes of weakened defenses, such as from severe stress, immunosuppressant medications, and severe intercurrent illnesses.


This is why steroids and other immunosuppressive medications are absolutely contraindicated in Lyme. This also includes intraarticular steroids.

. . . .


From page 12:

Excerpt:

. . .

More evidence has accumulated indicating the severe detrimental effects of the concurrent use of immunosuppressants including steroids in the patient with active B. burgdorferi infection.


Never give steroids or any other immunosuppressant to any patient who may even remotely be suffering from Lyme, or serious, permanent damage may result, especially if given for anything greater than a short course.


If immunosuppressive therapy is absolutely necessary, then potent antibiotic treatment should begin at least 48 hours prior to the immunosuppressants.

. . . .


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http://www.lymenet.de/literatur/steroids.htm

Antibiotics and Steroids


by John Drulle, M.


Excerpt:

. . .

Corticosteroids can last in the body for months, usually around 6 months. In many bacterial infections such as LD, damage can be done.

. . . .

- Full article at link above.

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Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
 
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Stinging Nettle and Quercetin are both good to combat allergies. Together, they can be excellent.

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http://oneearthherbs.squarespace.com/important-herbs/stinging-nettle-urtica-dioica.html

Stinging Nettle

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One good brand is Eclectic Institute. I think you can find it here:

www.vitacost.com

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Source Naturals makes a good Quercertin.

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Posted by bettyg (Member # 6147) on :
 
these nasal sprays HAVE HELPED ME! made my nights of sleeping tolerable.

so each person is so difference on what works and not works. [Smile]

my cpap for my sleep apnea where i stop breathing while sleeping has even HELPED MORE so i've not been using my nighttime nasal sprays & inhalers AT ALL!!
 
Posted by hopeandfaith (Member # 19884) on :
 
I had a terrible reaction to using Flonase when actively treating my lyme. My LLMD told me he didn't think that it would affect me like that, but it certainly did!
 
Posted by sammy (Member # 13952) on :
 
I also have allergies that flare in the spring and fall. If I don't keep them well controlled I always end up with secondary infections.

This spring has been rough for me. I usually do well on Zyrtec and an occasional Sudafed. Lately i've needed Zyrtec, Sudafed, Singulair, and Nasonex. Things are finally clearing up so I will probably stop the Nasonex sometime this week. All in all I will have only been on the Nasonex about 3wks.

I've been told that the nasal steroids used for allergies are very mild and locally acting. You always have to balance the risks with the benefits. When ever you think about changing or adding medications it is best to talk with your doctor.
 
Posted by Nutmeg (Member # 7250) on :
 
Xlear xylitol nasal wash comes in a little spray bottle from the health food store and is very good for clearing out nasal passages of allergens and bacteria.

NeilMed makes a plastic bottle for nasal irrigation with a saline solution. It's easier to use than a neti pot and washes out allergens.

Nutmeg
 


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