I have this wierd thing sometime if sleep to little, like 6 hours or less, all my symptoms are better. I do feel "normal" sleepy.
Lyme symptoms are present, but in a much smaller degree. It's like I go from 30% to almost 70.
Any1 else experiences this or can explain this?
Probably not anything paying attention to, but find it very weird...
Posted by NMN (Member # 11007) on :
I think I know what you mean. For me if I get less than 8 hours I can wake up feeling quite rested and alert for a while but I tend to crash and get very symptomatic within about 2-3 hours.
On the other hand if I get the 10 hours I feel I need, I end up feeling unrested and drowsy all day.
Posted by lymielauren28 (Member # 13742) on :
Yep for me. I've noticed the less sleep I get the better I feel. They say that when you sleep your body temp goes down which Lyme loves, so they have a party while you're snoozing.
Maybe when you get less sleep they have less time to party which makes YOU feel better the next day?? Just a thought!
Lauren
Posted by Toppers (Member # 20083) on :
heck yeah, this is really weird. Along the lines of reversed circadian rhythm--If I get an hour of sleep and wake up just at the crack of dawn I feel amazing.
IF I get 8 hours I'm toast the rest of the day.
Great disease, more please.
Posted by dguy (Member # 8979) on :
One possibility is that a lack of sleep reduces the function of an immune system that otherwise is stuck in Th1 overdrive due to Bb. Less immune action means less inflammation, so you feel better while the infection is allowed to grow worse.
Posted by Marz (Member # 3446) on :
I've been so tired lately so wanted to catch up last night since I could sleep in this am. I think I took 15 mg ambien broken up throughout the night. I never sleep through the night.
I slept 11 hours.
Today I'm very cold 96.1. Do sleeping pills lower your body temp? Or is that just symptoms coming out because of "too much" sleep?
Little sleep is not good for me--my anxiety gets bad without sleep.
Posted by radfaraf (Member # 11909) on :
I usually have less brain fog the next day if I don't sleep.
Posted by mupersan (Member # 19683) on :
quote:Originally posted by dguy: One possibility is that a lack of sleep reduces the function of an immune system that otherwise is stuck in Th1 overdrive due to Bb. Less immune action means less inflammation, so you feel better while the infection is allowed to grow worse.
I think this is a logic theory.
But isn't it the Th2 which is in overdrive? And Th1 is supressed?
Posted by dguy (Member # 8979) on :
My understanding is Th2 tends to decrease the inflammatory response whereas Th1 increases it. Since many lyme symptoms are related to excess inflammation, it seems we are experiencing excess Th1.
"... The real, underlying problem is that we are TH1 suppressed, and these bacteria are supposed to be dealt with by our TH1 immune defenses. Since we are TH2 activated, we don't have the immune system to keep them dormant or to fight them when they come out, or when they invade...". Posted by dguy (Member # 8979) on :
Well, Dr. Cheney's comments don't fit my experience: for example, my symptoms diminish greatly when I suppress Th1 with glucocorticoids.
Posted by mupersan (Member # 19683) on :
Hehe. Looks like we're both right It can go either way. Back and forth.
Ken Singleton, M.D. explains it quite simple in his book.
Read under: "Adaptive System Key Players (Specific Immunity)".
But it says nothing about this weird sleep thing though Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
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My take is that the weird push with lack of sleep is adrenal overdrive. The body is on alert and pushes harder.
Not a good thing as it can really fry our whole endocrine system if this is a regular routine.
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Posted by Lymeorsomething (Member # 16359) on :
I'm surprised other people have this. Prior to being sick I used to love to get extra sleep. Now when I do get extra sleep it almost always makes me feel worse and spaced out.
I'm a little better when I get up early and stay up....
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