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Posted by annxyzz (Member # 20404) on :
 
I have been on zeolite a few weeks and feel
horrible ( VERY) the day after taking it . I can tolerate it only every other day .

Have others felt a lot worse on it ? What were your symptoms , if so ?
 
Posted by m0joey (Member # 13494) on :
 
I don't test well energetically for it. Zeolites go through the kidneys, and some may not be able to handle it. I tolerate chelators that go primarily via liver/fecal route much better. You may want to try something like Metal Free or PCA-rx, as well as the precursors of glutathione like NAC and ALA and OSR (caveat: NAC and ALA may mobilize mercury in brain)
 
Posted by pryorka (Member # 13649) on :
 
pectasol works in the same way as zeolites so you could give it a shot. I take it and it doesn't cause me any problems and it even tastes good.
 
Posted by ty (Member # 20293) on :
 
My husband has been taking Zeolite (or Zeolite HP) and 4 capsules of CheleX by Xymogen every third day following condensed Cowden Protocol. He usually herxes the next day but feels better by the second day. He has been on condensed Cowden Protocol for over 3 months, and his herx after Zeolite got milder over the time.

[ 06-29-2009, 03:49 PM: Message edited by: ty ]
 
Posted by luvs2ride (Member # 8090) on :
 
I was completely unable to do the zeolite product, Destroxin and it blew my right knee up the size of a soccer ball.

My doctor has me on a different zeolite product that grabs the mercury intact and carrys it out of the body without dropping it or touching the body. I am having no problems with it.

ACZ Nano by Results RNA
http://www.resultsrna.com/
 
Posted by m0joey (Member # 13494) on :
 
Pryorka--

i think pectasol works through the liver/fecal route because it is pectin, so in that case it would not work the same way as zeolite. There are many different type of chelating agents, and they must be chosen carefully acccording to your body's strengths and weaknesses. There is no point taking all the chelating agents in the world if you have a kidney, liver blockage or leaky gut. all of the above will just lead to recirculation
 
Posted by Blackstone (Member # 9453) on :
 
ACZ Nano doesn't seem to affect me negatively. Not sure if it is doing anything positive, but it sure isn't doing anything negative and is well tolerated.
 
Posted by GiGi (Member # 259) on :
 
http://flash.lymenet.org/ubb/ultimatebb.php/topic/1/50568#000007
http://flash.lymenet.org/ubb/ultimatebb.php/topic/1/51622#000013

If you do a search, you will find more on the subject.

Good luck - hope you are not allergic to heayy metals. Many are - I tried to detox for years this way - until I found out, as many other Lymies, that we are holding on to the stuff because our body is unable to recognize them as a toxin. Take a look at the Allergie Immun thread. That explains it all. I don't know of anyone from this board who did the AI test and did not find out that they are allergic to the metals (at the DNA Level).

You may save yourself a lot of energy if you check into this.

Take care.
 
Posted by METALLlC BLUE (Member # 6628) on :
 
quote:

My husband has been taking Zeolite (or Zeolite HP) and 2 capsules of CheleX by Xymogen every third day following condensed Cowden Protocol. He usually herxes the next day but feels better by the second day. He has been on condensed Cowden Protocol for over 3 months, and his herx after Zeolite got milder over the time.

Same here. Only every third night.

I do Zeolite & Condensed Cowden, plus a variety of drug treatents.

The day after Zeolite, that evening (Now that my body is used to it), I use 4 Chelex, 7 Chlorella, and 10 drops of Algas, with 300mg ALA, and 600mg NAC. That routine then breaks for two days and then the third night of the third day I begin the cycle again.

So it always goes

July 1: Zeolite
July 2: Chelex/etc etc
July 3: Nothing
July 4: Zeolite
July 5 Chelex/Etc etc
July 6 Nothing.

That's the pattern. Now mind you, it's taken me months to build up to that and I drink at least 3 liters of water per day, as well as sweat and exercise when possible a few times per week.

My health has improved 5-10% from 35% in the last 3 weeks. I would say the primary agent responsible is the Dorxy (Doxycycline EX release). Other things are probably working well too, but that was the only one that gave me the solid 2 week traditional recovery period. 7-10 days the Herxheimer begins, but 12th day improvements start. By 14th day I increase at least 5% and become functional at 40%.
 
Posted by pryorka (Member # 13649) on :
 
mojoey what I was talking about was it's binding mechanism and where it circulates in the body is similar to zeolites. And supposedly pectasol doesn't trap good minerals and it makes sense that it doesn't based on what I've read. Of course you have to have your elimination pathways working for anything to work. So give it a shot if you like since it sounds like you might have better luck with it.
 
Posted by annxyzz (Member # 20404) on :
 
Your replies are extremely helpful now . I will
look into each suggestion.

I am taking the zeolite every other day and I feel almost feverish and even my skin feels achey . I am also EXTREMELY fatigued . Hopefully the zeolite is working .

I REALLY appreciate the help of each reply !
 
Posted by METALLlC BLUE (Member # 6628) on :
 
Annxyzz, you might consider backing off a little bit and giving yourself two days rest rather than one. The outcome will be the same but you'll feel better. You may be doing it too fast. Make sure you drink plenty of clean water.
 


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