As the day has gone on, there is no comparison. I am herxing way harder than last week, same treatment for lyme, the Bionic 30 minutes with nosodes last week, the PE1, five minutes this week=a much stronger herx than the Bionic by far with less time. Less time, more herxing=more power. It makes sense, larger bulbs, 3mm Bionic, 5mm PE1, 880 nanohertz like the Bionic with 4 other wavelengths (nanohertz). Troy
Posted by TerryK (Member # 8552) on :
Thanks for the report. I am thinking of getting the PE-1.
Have you noticed any improvements while using it or have you just started using it?
Terry
Posted by sixgoofykids (Member # 11141) on :
Could it be because you've already treated so many times with the Bionic? I mean, if you had used the PE1 first, then switched to the Bionic would if be opposite?
Could it have something to do with using different frequencies? What frequency are you using? I had a huge herx switching to 28 hz on the Bionic when I started using blood.
Posted by pamoisondelune (Member # 11846) on :
I tried to go to this site
groups.yahoo.com/bionic880
but got the message that the site no longer exists. Is this site under attack too?
----Polly Polygonum
Posted by pamoisondelune (Member # 11846) on :
They changed the name of the forum to
/health.groups.yahoo.com/group/bionic880-PE1/
Posted by SForsgren (Member # 7686) on :
Higher power doesn't always mean better results. Herxing is not the goal of treatment. I think too many people miss the fact that killing bugs is not the only requirement for recovery. There is much more.
Great if this device works given lower cost and availability, but I think we need to keep in mind that killing releases more toxins, etc. into the body and that also has to be considered and dealt with.
Posted by GiGi (Member # 259) on :
I get the shivers when I read this.
May I add my two cents' worth to Scott's comment:
He is so right. Then comes the fact that the terrain occupied by the Lyme and co-infections is also harboring a number of other microorganisms (viruses, fungi, mold, parasites, etc.) who are all part of this chronic disease. Photons also mobilize (not necessarily eliminating) the toxic heavy metals, as well as the many chemicals, dental toxins, xenobiotics, etc., all of which contribute to this chronic condition.
Whether your are after killing microbes or chelating heavy metals or treating any of the other offending invaders, every neurotoxin is involved in every process and needs help way beyond some infrared photons. Every time this type of treatment is done, a flood of all neurotoxins should be expected.
If you get a herpes outbreak after you treated some bacteria, that means the old viral deposits are coming to the forefront and need to be dealt with. The beloved expression "herxheimer" is not a good explanation if you end up moving the toxic metals from one body part to another, or get a herpes outbreak. These need to be treated specifically. If you don't, it is possible that you are going to be chasing some of these toxins for a long time to come.
Take care.
Posted by TerryK (Member # 8552) on :
Thanks for posting a link to the discussion group. I didn't know it existed. I couldn't get to it from your link. If you remove the first "/", you can get your link to work. The browser IE - automatically adds http:// to the beginning of your URL and since you already have a "/", that makes it http:/// which then does not work. Hope that makes sense.