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Posted by Gerard Bobis (Member # 22747) on :
 
does anyone feel this? every morning waking up or in the middle of the night, you feel like having flu without fever, weakness and slight muscle pain?

some symptoms such as feeling of dried throat and pain in the throat also felt everytime you wake up?
 
Posted by Lymetoo (Member # 743) on :
 
Doesn't sound like lyme. Have you tried Googling your symptoms to see what you come up with?
 
Posted by sixgoofykids (Member # 11141) on :
 
I always felt worse in the morning.

Could you have low blood sugar? Feeling weak in the middle of the night can be from that. I'd mention it to your LLMD and see what he says.
 
Posted by Gerard Bobis (Member # 22747) on :
 
lyme is the closest.. i dont have any digestive or heart problems of sort.. always just the sensation of feeling sick and sensitivity of tooth, mouth and well i think my throat i guess.

my doctor says cfs but they usually dont diagnose cfs,.. just tried comparing here to know or this is really a psychological thing.. whew
 
Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
 
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First, ginger can help decrease nausea.

Be sure to look back over all your recent threads to the lists of symptoms for lyme. If you think this is caused by psychological issues, then see a therapist. But I first have to wonder just why anyone would think a sore throat and nausea are psychological.

I had a sore throat every day for 20 years and, aside from the dozens of times I had strep throat, I'd always be told my throat looked fine. They did not, however, look at the arches in the back of the mouth, to the sides.

As for the nausea, I was told all blonds are dizzy, even when this began back in college. Slow forward a couple decades and it's clear involvement not only from 3 TBD but also very likely due to cracks in some vestibular bones.

You might consult an ENT, since you don't have a LLMD in your country.

And, besides, going back now, if you were diagnosed with CFS just how does psychological then take over from that. Although CFS is often misdiagnosed lyme/TBD, it is clear that other chronic stealth infections can be the cause or contributing factor. If the doctor who dx you with CFS just left you on your own, you need a better doctor.

There are many considerations such as mitochondrial dysfunction, etc. that any expert on CFS should know about - and suggestions the doctor should be giving you.

You said: " . . . my doctor says cfs but they usually dont diagnose cfs . . . " Well, who cares what "they" usually don't do - your doctor says CFS, so go from there with the links given to you in previous posts - print them out and discuss a treatment path with your doctor - or a better doctor.

There may be more to this but, even now with a CFS dx, there are things you can do to help yourself while you find a better diagnostician.

Bottom line: you need a good doctor.

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Be sure to search mitochondrial dysfunction here. It also affects lyme patients. There are things to help with that while you figure out your next step.

www.cfids.org

The CFIDS Association of America

Chronic fatigue syndrome information, support and advocacy resources, . . .
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Posted by Gerard Bobis (Member # 22747) on :
 
i already did consult to an ENT and just told me my throat's fine. that's what my goal is to find a good and understanding doctor to get me out of this unpredictable bad sensations i'm feeling everyday.

thanks guys
 
Posted by KS (Member # 12549) on :
 
I had these symptoms all day long minus the joint/bone pain. The nausea was so severe at times that I would either faint or vomit. Went to 2 different ENT specialists since the sensation of nausea was concentrated in my throat and I always had a sore throat. I too always was told that everything looked fine.

I used to tell people as well that it felt like I had morning sickness all day long yet I wasn't pregnant and all my hormones seemed fine.

These symptoms have been signficantly reduced since doing extended antibiotic treatment. I'm also on a low dose of amitryptiline to help reduce the nausea even more.

Since you are having your symptoms primarily at night/morning, you may want to consider acid reflux as a possible cause. I would also suggest that you be evaluated by an endocrinologist.

I'd be interested in hearing if you find something that works for you
 
Posted by massman (Member # 18116) on :
 
Pregnant ?
 
Posted by Beautiful Disaster (Member # 21882) on :
 
Morning sickness in women is usually feeling sick to your stomach. When I was pregnant, I didn't feel fluish, just very sick to my stomach...for the whole 9 months. Bleh!
 
Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
 
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The morning sickness is really a frequent description of lyme, CFS and adrenal patients.

The term might best be described as nausea, vertigo upon awakening, etc. . . . since most think only of the term in pregnancy.

It can be from many things: inner ear; low blood sugar; depleted adrenals -- but, yes, many patients describe a sicky-icky morning, feeling better after noon.
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Posted by nenet (Member # 13174) on :
 
Have you been to an endocrinologist to have your hormonal levels tested?

This is an important start, whatever you might have. If your hormones are off you need to treat them or address any underlying causes so they go back to normal.

You may have an underlying infection causing symptoms like your hormones being imbalanced, which can cause these symptoms, or there may be a physical defect unrelated to an infection. Have you ever had any head trauma, like a fall, a blow to the head or upper body, or a car accident?

Either way, hormone problems can cause one to feel sick, flu-like, dry mouth, sore throat, dizzy, weak, and other symptoms. So they need to be checked for.

Then you can go on to investigate other possible factors. It's easier to start with things that can be tested for accurately, and rule them out.


Things to check are cortisol, thyroid (all types), testosterone, aldosterone, estrogen, etc.

[ 10-20-2009, 01:55 PM: Message edited by: nenet ]
 
Posted by ping (Member # 6974) on :
 
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Originally posted by massman:
Pregnant ?

Cute, mass.... [Big Grin] Glad someone has a sense of humor left, although I don't think GERARD is laughing right now....

Gerard - Do you have co-infection(s) with Lyme? Sounds like possibly Babesia. Just a thought.
 
Posted by Gerard Bobis (Member # 22747) on :
 
can endocrine prblems causes same symptoms with lyme?
 
Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
 
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Nearly everyone who has lyme has endocrine issues, some profoundly so.

Not all who have endocrine issues have lyme, though.
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