LymeNet Flash: URGENT please help!

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Posted by aubsdaddy (Member # 21128) on :

caught it in 1995 when i discovered 3 circles on

my body. now i have been tested can anyone tell

these test results if i have lyme even after I

tested by a crappy LLMD in west chester,pa who

told me he didn't belive in lyme disease.

he gave me amoxilin and pain medicine and sent

me for blood work. pcr dna for coinfections and

lyme. all came back negative. my quest initial

blood work this year says this.

18KB (1GG) BAND REACTIVE

LYME DISEASE AB (IGM) WB POSTIVE

23 KB (IGM) BAND REACTIVE

41 KB (IGM) BAND REACTIVE

Do I have lyme disease still? was i undertreated in 1995?

Posted by northstar (Member # 7911) on :

You can have relapses, where the lyme and co-infections resurface when the body is
under stress.

It is dormant (remission) if you were treated
appropriately, but it can come back later.

If you were not treated appropriately for all
tbd's, your body is doing its best to fight
back, but with continuing symptoms.

Maybe post on "seeking a doctor" for
an ILADS dr.

North

Posted by aubsdaddy (Member # 21128) on :

Everything else shown up non reactive

Posted by feelfit (Member # 12770) on :

Daddy,

You have undertreated lyme. Don't be scared. Be happy that it is possible to feel much better than you do right now......

*Stressing* see a real lyme doc.

Posted by bettyg (Member # 6147) on :

daddy,

this is a DUPLICATE of this link

http://flash.lymenet.org/ubb/ultimatebb.php/topic/1/87367#000000

could you copy your post & ALL REPLIES and post them as REPLIES to your other one where you have many replies?

then delete this one please; gets confusing since we know we have answered you and yet our names/replies don't show up.

after copying all to the above link i showed,
click on pencil, 3rd box to right of your name

go to top left side, click delete post ...thanks!

Posted by Pinelady (Member # 18524) on :

It is known through some recent research that the

borrelia can convert to cyst form, in as little as

3 days when threatened with antibiotics. There are

some things LLMD's are doing to try to prevent

this. I would consult a LLMD to determine if you

really are latent like its sister syphilis is

know to become or active disease. I am trying vitamin E. and Nystatin.

Posted by Marnie (Member # 773) on :

The 41 band indicates an antibody to the flagella protein.

23 is another lyme positive band.

Those are often the first 2 bands to show up.

"An IgM Western Blot must have ***two or more bands*** of the following three bands: 23, 39, 41"

http://www.canlyme.com/tom.html

"23 kDa was shown to be one of the major allergens reacting with IgE"
http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/journal/119243164/abstract?CRETRY=1&SRETRY=0

More re: the 23 kDa antibody here:

http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/journal/118817743/abstract

Reason: Bb does indeed bind to our plasminogen which converts to plasmin which activates collagenase (breakdown of collagen).

A lot is happening in the basement membranes.

Where are they? Illustration here (make the picture bigger):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Extracellular_Matrix.png

See how close it is to our blood vessels?

Our antibodies to some of Bb's proteins is what is being measured.

We are testing for signs of our REACTION to Bb.