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Posted by Hannemannn (Member # 21133) on :
 
I read that these are common symptoms for mycoplasma:

Symptoms: Fatigue, headaches, muscle pain and soreness, nausea, gastrointestinal problems, joint pain and soreness, lymph node pain, cognitive problems, depression, breathing problems and other signs and symptoms

So how do you make difference between LD and mycoplasma because those all are also LD
symptoms?

And from where its possible to get mycoplasma?

[ 11-22-2009, 08:33 AM: Message edited by: Hannemannn ]
 
Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
 
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One can be nearly indistinguishable from the other.

Ticks can transmit mycoplasma. (A link below explains more.)

Patient history makes a difference but since ticks can also carry mycoplasma, even that can be a tough call. Even with a bulls eye rash that is clearly lyme, mycoplasma can piggyback. So lyme does not preclude having another infection.

Testing can help but, as we know, is not always definitive, even with the best labs. Still, I say GET THE TESTS - but at a specialty lab or, at least, with specific instruction from the experts because (just as with lyme) not all labs are equal.

If you show positive, that will give you great information for how to proceed. If not, hope your doctor is very wise and comprehensive, just in case.


And, there is also Cpn to consider as that can be nearly identical. The good news is that all three treatment paths are very similar and can be set up so at to cover all the bases if a doctor suspects all three.

However, other tick-borne infections have treatments that vary, so it's important to be aware of that. And there are also other chronic stealth infections to consider.

The right lab with the right test can help but, too often, tests still can't rule out many infections since we just don't have all the tests necessary or some are not as sensitive as needed. Science has limits.

Most importantly, a LLMD who is an excellent diagnostician can really be a huge help. A "cover all the bases" approach, when feasible, is also something to consider. Sometimes, a simple and safe adjustment can cover more bases, just in case.

And that is why I like allicin so much. Andrographis,too. Both address a whole lot and can be a helpful addition to pharmaceutical treatment protocols, too.

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http://cassia.org/essay.htm

When to Suspect Lyme - by John D. Bleiweiss, M.D.

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www.lymeinfo.net/medical/LDSymptoms.pdf

Lyme Disease Symptoms

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This is the web site for the hard working mycoplasma researcher/author Garth Nicolson (whom I'd like to thank for all his work):

www.immed.org

The Institute for Molecular Medicine

A nonprofit institute dedicated to discovering new diagnostic and therapeutic solutions for chronic mycoplasma infections.

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http://www.prohealth.com//library/showArticle.cfm?libid=8026

Diagnosis and Therapy of Chronic Systemic Co-Infections in Lyme Disease and other Tick-Borne Infectious Diseases

by Prof. Garth L. Nicolson, Ph.D. (2001)

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www.cpnhelp.org

Cpn (Chlamydia Pneumonia)

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www.chlamydieos.cz/studie01en.html

LATENT CHLAMYDIAL INFECTIONS: THE PROBABLE CAUSE OF A WIDE SPECTRUM OF HUMAN DISEASES

Authors: Bazala, Renda from the Czech Republic - Oct. 2007

- Twelve page article at link.


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Some good labs listed here-

In addition to the usual coinfections from ticks (such as babesia, bartonella, ehrlichia, RMSF, etc.), there are some other chronic stealth infections that an excellent LLMD should know about:


http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=069911#000000

TIMACA #6911 posted 03 August, 2008

I would encourage EVERY person who has received a lyme diagnosis to get the following tests. . . .

- at link.

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This explains how, for thousands of years, infections have been prone to coexistence by taking on a stealth nature (hidden from detection; sneaky):

http://www.classicalchinesemedicine.org/clinicalinfo/downloads/fruehauf_gufinal.pdf

GU SYNDROME: A Forgotten Clinical Approach to Chronic Parasitism

Heiner Freuhauf, Ph.D., L.Ac.

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By coincidence, Cold Feet just posted this enlightening thread that mirrors the GU Syndrome study:

http://flash.lymenet.org/ubb/ultimatebb.php/topic/1/88275

Topic: New Research Findings: University of New Haven

These abstracts originate from ``poster presentations'' at the October 24th ILADS conference in Washington DC ( . . .received permission to share from Dr. Sapi). [See www.ilads.org for details]

Among other important abstracts:

Novel Filarial Nematode Infection in Ixodus scapularis Ticks Collected from Southern Connecticut

Excerpt:

. . . Dr. Willy Burgdorfer found 30 microfilarial worms (species was not identified) in one adult Ixodis dammini tick in Shelter Island NY in mid 80s. . . .

- much more at that thread.

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Apologies for leaving you with all that detail. It's important, however, I really would have rather been a comediene or an adventure guide. So, in the true spirit of diversion, here's a bit of fun:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfMmnHpvL70

Mr. Bean Goes to the Swimming Pool - 5:05 video

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[ 11-22-2009, 03:11 PM: Message edited by: Keebler ]
 
Posted by Hannemannn (Member # 21133) on :
 
hehe [Smile] Maybe I just watch that mr. bean video and

forget all my problems.
 


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