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Posted by seekhelp (Member # 15067) on :
 
I purchased this product from NSI (Vitacost) a few weeks ago. They are 900 mg capsules. The product is 95% pure Curcumin and 5 mg of Black Pepper Extract.

The bottle says a serving size is 1 per day. How many capsules can one safely take? For those who take Tumeric Extract, what doses do you find useful?
 
Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
 
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Seek,

I've just been using the kitchen spice added to water and keep putting off ordering the actual supplement. You've got a good brand. And thanks for reminding me that the pepper improves the action.

I can't sort through to find the ideal dose (still very bleary eyed) . . . but here are some links that will surely offer details for dosing parameters for both curcumin and turmeric. If one has gallbladder trouble, there are cautions.

Yeah, there are a lot of sources here but, depending upon the reason one is taking it, the dose may vary. So I just copied my whole set and you can take what you want.

I would start here:

http://tinyurl.com/y8bd9k2

Curcumin Prevents Some Stress-Related Changes


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http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez

PubMed Search:

Curcumin - 3011 abstracts

Curcumin, seizures - 8 abstracts

Curcumin, inflammation - 282 abstracts

Curcumin, depression - 18 abstracts

Curcumin, adrenals - 6 abstracts

Curcumin, anxiety - 5 abstracts

Curcumin, cardiac - 60 abstracts

Babesia, Curcumin - 5 abstracts

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www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19540859

Xu Y, Lin D, Li S, Li G, Shyamala SG, Barish PA, Vernon MM, Pan J, Ogle WO.

Curcumin reverses impaired cognition and neuronal plasticity induced by chronic stress.

Neuropharmacology. 2009 Sep;57(4):463-71

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From Vitamin Research Products:

http://www.vrp.com/ArticlesSearch.aspx?k=Curcumin

Search results for Curcumin - 46 Articles Found


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About the PEPPER:

I can't tolerate spicy foods at all. I have taken the pepper product you mentioned and found it is best in the middle of a meal.

If you sense it too hot, cut back or take only in the middle of you most substantial meal. But, even I, if taken around food, did okay with it. The piperine I took was a separate product. Yours is mixed into the curcumin in a modest dose so it should be fine. The cautions below are for the higher doses of the single piperine capsules.


You can read more about how it works here:

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From ``The One Earth Herbal Sourcebook'' (Tillotson, et.al.)

Here, the author states that one could take too much Turmeric extract . . . .

http://oneearthherbs.squarespace.com/important-herbs/long-pepper-piper-longum.html


LONG PEPPER (Piper longum)
Latin: Piper longum
Sanskrit: Pippali

WHAT IT DOES: Long pepper is pungent in taste and hot in action, and tonic. It improves appetite and digestion, helps control coughs and asthma, reduces mucus and increases absorption of food, nutrients and herbs

RATING: Silver, as it contains both tonic effects as well as some restrictions

SAFETY ISSUES:

Use cautiously with stomach weakness or hyperacidity.

Do not use continuously in high dose for longer than two weeks.

Low dosage (as a spice) is safe for long term use.

STARTING DOSAGE:

* Dried powder: 200-mg concentration, one and-a-half grams two to three times per day (larger amounts--up to 30 grams per day--may be used if cooked for two hours)

Long pepper is an interesting medicine. It is one of three parts of the famous Ayurvedic digestive formula called trikatu (the other two are black pepper and ginger root).

Long pepper is pungent and stimulating to the appetite, and can be added to the diet to improve nutrient absorption. TAM doctors use it for bronchitis, asthma, cough and fever, and to stimulate the medicinal effects of other herbs.

Scientific attention has focused on piperine . . .

Therefore, instead of using the more expensive and perhaps slightly dangerous turmeric extract called curcumin by itself, all you may need to do is add either of the peppers to ordinary turmeric root, about 5% by weight, for short periods of time (perhaps a few weeks at most).

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Numerous studies of long pepper show blood levels of various vitamins and nutrients to increase by as much as 30% when ingested concurrently. Nonetheless, I do not recommend long-term continual use due to the herb's strongly spicy quality. . . .

Research Highlights

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That same author's page on TURMERIC ROOT (Curcuma longa)

http://oneearthherbs.squarespace.com/important-herbs/turmeric-root-curcuma-longa.html

WHAT IT DOES: Turmeric root is bitter in taste and warming in action. It strongly reduces inflammation and mucus in all parts of the body, protects the liver, lungs and intestines . . . .

RATING: Gold

SAFETY ISSUES: Due to mucin-reducing effects,

do not use the concentrated extract (curcumin) or oil in high doses, especially if you have bile duct obstruction, gall stones, or stomach ulcers.

Use turmeric as a spice freely.

STARTING DOSAGE: * Crude powder: 500 mg two to three times per day.

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Posted by sutherngrl (Member # 16270) on :
 
I use the kitchen spice too. I put it in my fresh juiced veggies, over rice, etc. No doubt this stuff works for inflammation.
 
Posted by seibertneurolyme (Member # 6416) on :
 
I have given hubby capsules that I made from the kitchen spice also. I have been giving him a separate bioperine supplement for several months to help with absorption of all herbs and supplements he takes.

He takes 10 mg of bioperine 3 times per day. He was taking 2 turmeric caps 3 times per day as well. They are 400 or 500 mg caps. Stopped the turmeric after 2 or 3 months -- couldn't really tell if it was doing anything. May add it back again as I still have some turmeric left over.

Bea Seibert
 
Posted by eds (Member # 5700) on :
 
Querciten is supposed to help absorption as well. There is a way to make a liposomal mixture useing lecithin and an ultrasonic cleaner machine. Not sure if this will help absorption though.
 


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