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Posted by f13girl (Member # 23844) on :
 
Desperate for sleep-

Doctor prescribed Gaba Pentin which is helping with nerve irritation in brain- but I think is making my non existent sleep worse?

I have not tried straight cordyalis/tried almost everything else-can this be taken with drugs?

Can anyone recommend a brand?where to order?
 
Posted by treepatrol (Member # 4117) on :
 
I use melatonin
 
Posted by jarjar (Member # 8847) on :
 
Just plain old Ambien works for me but everyone is different.
 
Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
 
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For some, Ambien has caused more than a few nightmare moments. Even Tiger Woods' car crash may have been caused, in part, by ambien that he had taken earlier that night. He may have been better able to negotiate the car without it.

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www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/11730360#11730360

NBC Video: ``Ambien Drivers'' - 2 minutes

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http://abcnews.go.com/search?searchtext=Ambien&type=

Video: 3/14/07 - "Sleep Driving on Ambien" - about 2 minutes

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www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11726645/

Driving under the influence -- of sleeping pills: Ambien among top 10 drugs found in impaired drivers

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www.nytimes.com/2006/03/08/business/08ambien.html?scp=1&sq=ambien&st=cse

The New York Times - March 8, 2006

Some Sleeping Pill Users Range Far Beyond Bed

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www.nytimes.com/2006/03/14/business/14ambienbox.html?_r=1&scp=5&sq=ambien&st=cse&oref=slogin

The New York Times - March 14, 2006

Safeguards When Using Ambien

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From the manufacturer's website:

http://www.ambiencr.com/

IMPORTANT SAFETY INFORMATION for AMBIEN and AMBIEN CR
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[ 04-07-2010, 05:04 PM: Message edited by: Keebler ]
 
Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
 
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Q: " can [corydalis] be taken with drugs? "

That would depend upon the type of drugs.

Antibiotics - yes.

Any sleep drugs? NO. Never take an herbal sleep formula with any psychoactive or sleep drug. Also never take an herbal sleep formula with prescription pain meds. One or the other. Never both.

As well, alcohol should never be combined with any herbal sleep formula. But lyme patients are supposed to totally avoid alcohol, so that should not be an issue.

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CORYDALIS
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http://www.itmonline.org/arts/pain.htm

SIMPLE TRADITIONAL FORMULAS FOR PAIN

Shixiao San, Jin Lingzi San, Liang Fu Wan, and Baishao Gancao Tang

by Subhuti Dharmananda, Ph.D., Director, Institute for Traditional Medicine, Portland, Oregon

excerpt:

. . . Corydalis is added "to increase the pain-relieving effects of this prescription."

To compare Shixiao San and Jin Lingzi San, it is helpful to examine two of the main ingredients. Yang Yifan (9) compares corydalis to trogopterus (wulingzhi):

Corydalis and trogopterus enter the liver and spleen meridians. Both are able to promote blood circulation and remove congealed blood. They are very effective for relieving pain.

- Full article at link above.

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http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez

PubMed Search:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez

PubMed Search:

Corydalis - 285 abstracts

Corydalis, pain - 8 abstracts

Corydalis, liver - 4 abstracts

Corydalis, inflammation - 3 abstracts (one lead to Curcumin)

Hypomagnesemia, pain - 32 abstracts

Links to mentions of it in seven different chapters of The One Earth Herbal Sourcebook:

http://oneearthherbs.squarespace.com/display/Search?searchQuery=Corydalis&moduleId=1405778

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This is an excellent formula, intended for use before going to bed (follow instructions and caution with driving until you get used to it. Do not mix with sedative or alcohol).

This is also part of a lyme protocol.

http://www.hepapro.com/hepapro_product.htm

See #28 - HerbSom

Ingredients; Corydalis root, jujube seeds and Schisandra fruit.

Jujube is also called zizyphus. Schisandra is also spelled schizandra. Both can be searched at PubMed and at The One Earth Herbal Sourcebook ( http://oneearthherbs.squarespace.com )

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http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez

PubMed Search:

Curcumin, Kindling - one abstract:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19567167

Curcumin inhibits amygdaloid kindled seizures in rats.

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Detailed thread:

http://tinyurl.com/y8bd9k2

Topic: CURCUMIN Prevents Some Stress-Related Changes (Endocrine & Neuro)

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In my experience, Corydalis makes me sleepy. Curcumin does not. Curcumin helps lower the stress hormone levels throughout the day, so that sleep is more likely at night.
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[ 04-07-2010, 05:09 PM: Message edited by: Keebler ]
 


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