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Posted by jennie46 (Member # 20953) on :
 
I consume the juice of 4 lemons per day. Should I avoid this while dealing with burning stomach problems? Just curious because of the acid in lemons.

Thanks
 
Posted by Marnie (Member # 773) on :
 
Why are you consuming 4 lemons per day? Are you on the lemon detox diet?

http://lemondetoxdiet.blogspot.com/2008/04/7-tips-for-weight-loss-and-fat-burning.html

My guess...since lemons STIMULATE the digestive system, perhaps they are triggering too much HCL to be produced (to breakdown foods). Sort of a "rebound effect" perhaps.

Foods: are they Acid or Alkaline-forming?

Note that a food's acid or alkaline-forming tendency in the body has nothing to do with the actual pH of the food itself.

For example, lemons are very acidic, however the end-products they produce after digestion and assimilation are alkaline so

lemons are alkaline-forming in the body.

Likewise, meat will test alkaline before digestion but it leaves acidic residue in the body so, like nearly all animal products, meat is classified as acid-forming."

http://www.trans4mind.com/nutrition/pH.html


For more info.:

http://naturalmedicine.suite101.com/article.cfm/tips_to_balance_ph

Some ideas for gastritis:

http://www.natural-homeremedies.org/homeremedies_acidity.htm

I especially like the coconut water, but suspect coconut milk can help combat gastritis too...in more ways than one.
 
Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
 
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If lemons make your stomach burn, it is best to avoid them. The acid can really burn the tender tissue from mouth, all the way down.

Pomegranate juice is a nice one that offers good nutrients and does not burn. It's tart but a little stevia solves that.

Even one raw lemon a day, by itself, would really kill my stomach but my mouth would be the first to shout about it.

The acid can be harsh on tooth enamel, so when you are able to go back to them, be sure to rinse your mouth very well with water and do not brush for at least an hour, but do so then. My dentist told me this for vitamin C.
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Posted by jennie46 (Member # 20953) on :
 
Marnie,

As to why I am consuming lemons....to help with detox. I thought we were all supposed to be consuming lemons. I make lemonade with stevia to get them all in.
 
Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
 
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Jennie,

Here are other ways to fully support your liver that may be of interest to you. I've done good liver support for many years and have never used lemons in full force as they just are too acidic for me. Just two tablespoons in a glass of water works for me, though, if I take with a meal.

Lyme links first, then general ones. Long list, but a great reference tool to save to your computer. Hope this set helps.

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This is included in Burrascano's Guidelines, but you may want to be able to refer to it separately, too:

http://www.lymepa.org/Nutritional_Supplements.pdf

** Nutritional Supplements in Disseminated Lyme Disease **

J.J. Burrascano, Jr., MD (2008) - Four pages

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Important information about treatments options and support measures (such as for the liver), supplements and self-care:

http://tinyurl.com/6lq3pb (through Amazon)

THE LYME DISEASE SOLUTION (2008)

- by Kenneth B. Singleton , MD; James A. Duke. Ph.D. (Foreword)

You can read more about it here and see customer reviews.

Web site: www.lymedoctor.com

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http://oneearthherbs.squarespace.com/diseases/special-diets-for-illness.html

Special DIET for Illness

http://oneearthherbs.squarespace.com/diseases/understanding-the-liver.html

UNDERSTANDING THE LIVER

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http://oneearthherbs.squarespace.com/diseases/herbs-to-help-the-liver.html

HERBS TO HELP THE LIVER

Excerpts:

. . . The important thing to remember is that the liver is a hot (metabolically active) organ, and so tends to get congested and inflamed. . . .

PROTECTION

Turmeric root, wheat sprouts, schisandra berries, amla fruit, beet root and milk thistle seed are among the major sources of protective anti-oxidants for the liver cells, as are fruits that contain flavonoids, especially citrus fruits.

These should be used to prevent development of inflammatory disease, or for damage protection as in the case of persons taking strong chemical drugs or undergoing chemotherapy. . . .

DEFICIENCY

The liver can become weakened and deficient. If this is not corrected, it can lead to liver atrophy and depletion of glycogen stores, even hepatitis. Signs include fatigue, low blood pressure, hypoglycemia, dry eyes, headache, heat symptoms and irritability . . . .

HEAT & INFLAMMATION

To remove excess liver inflammation with heat signs or toxins . . . .

PAIN

If there is liver inflammation with signs of pain and tension, use herbs that calm the liver and move the blood . . . .

- Full chapter at link above.

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www.itmonline.org/5organs/liver.htm

The 5 Organs Network of Chinese Medicine - LIVER

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http://www.vrp.com/articles.aspx?ProdID=art2168&zTYPE=2

THE LIVER: Detoxifying This Vital Organ Nourishes Overall Health and Vitality - By Sherrill Sellman, ND

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http://www.vrp.com/articles.aspx?ProdID=art1890&zTYPE=2

LIVER PROTECTION: Laying the Foundation for Optimal Hepatic Health - By Kathy E. Acquistapace, DC, NHP, CNC

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From Vitamin Research Products:

http://www.vrp.com/ArticlesSearch.aspx?k=Curcumin

Search results for Curcumin - 46 Articles Found

one of those:

http://tinyurl.com/y8bd9k2

Curcumin Prevents Some Stress-Related Changes

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http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez

PubMed Search for Medical Literature:

Turmeric - 1517 abstracts

Curcumin - 3176 abstracts

Curcumin, liver - 401 abstracts

Curcumin, inflammation - 291 abstracts
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Posted by sutherngrl (Member # 16270) on :
 
I can't do the lemons in the water either because it makes my stomach hurt. Just drinking tons of plain water seems to help a lot though.
 
Posted by Ahodge01 (Member # 23569) on :
 
Why so many lemons? A 1/4 to a 1/2 a lemon in a tall glass of water a day should be more than enough?
 
Posted by canefan17 (Member # 22149) on :
 
Keebler

What are some herbs that help a "hot" and inflamed liver?

Any liver herbs we should avoid when the liver is inflamed?
 
Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
 
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canefan,

Best to consult a LL ND.

In the meantime, can you refer back to the links posted for you in the past - hope you have a file of collected links.

Just last week there were some links about

How the liver works

and

Herbs to help the liver

Cross search those phrases with: Tillotson

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http://flash.lymenet.org/ubb/ultimatebb.php/topic/2/13964

Naturopathic thread

- lots of article about herbs and herb safety
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Posted by 0ldman (Member # 22101) on :
 
My doc wanted me to do a lemon and a lime in a glass of water 3x daily. I could stomach one lemon, once a day.

We've all got different tolerances and we have to push them to get rid of this bug. The lemons were just too much for me to handle.

I should get back to at least one a day, maybe at least 3 a week, but I was losing weight because I couldn't keep food in me long enough to absorb anything. I had to cut back on the lemons.
 
Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
 
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Lemon is not for everyone. Also be sure to rinse and swish water in your mouth after each time. WAIT for at least 30 minutes before brushing.

For those with ulcers or tender stomach lining, OTHER liver support methods and sources of Vitamin C may be best.

Citric acid can burn through a compromised stomach lining. If it hurts, stop.
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[ 06-06-2012, 11:52 AM: Message edited by: Keebler ]
 


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