LymeNet Flash: Antibiotics AND herbs??

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Posted by JT's Mom (Member # 24553) on :

My son (6) is on Omnicef (Cefdinir) and Azithromycin for neuro Lyme. I asked my LLMD about herbs, but he was not knowledgeable about them.

I just read the research by Dr. Sapi (posted by Pinelady) and am concerned that we are not treating the cyst form. (LLMD did not want to prescribe Tindamax... said it causes dizziness in children.)

Does anyone take herbs such as Samento and/or Banderol WITH antibiotics?

My son has not been debilitated by Lyme THANKFULLY (even though he went undiagnosed for 2 years) and so far his herxes haven't bothered him too much, so I'm not overly concerned about additional herxing. Just wondering if it's OK to do both, or will the herbs interfere at all with the abx?

Any info would be appreciated!

Posted by stork (Member # 24167) on :

I took Samento w/Antibiotics for the first 4 months or so of treatment. It produced some nasty herxes along the way. I don't think it has very good BBB penetration - I've had more success with Cumanda for that. But I think it helped with my other symptoms (arthritic, etc.) Good luck.

Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :

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I know you asked about cyst form but my first concern is liver and ear safety. If your son is on zith, liver supplements would be very important to help prevent ear issues from the zith. Milk Thistle is the most common.

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http://www.lymepa.org/html/dr__j__burrascano_september_20_0.html

Burrascano's Powerpoint SLIDE presentation 9-20-08

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http://www.ilads.org/lyme_disease/B_guidelines_12_17_08.pdf

Advanced Topics in Lyme Disease (Diagnostic Hints and Treatment Guidelines for Lyme and Other Tick Borne Illnesses

Dr. Burrascano's Treatment Guidelines (2008) - 37 pages

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As important as any supplements, sections regarding self-care:

Go to page 27 for SUPPORTIVE THERAPY & the CERTAIN ABSOLUTE RULES

and also pages 31-32 for advice on a safe, non-aerobic exercise plan and physical rehabilitation.

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This is included in Burrascano's Guidelines, but you may want to be able to refer to it separately, too:

http://www.lymepa.org/Nutritional_Supplements.pdf

** Nutritional Supplements in Disseminated Lyme Disease **

J.J. Burrascano, Jr., MD (2008) - Four pages

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http://www.lymeinducedautism.com/images/Lymewhat_is_it_part_3,_LIA.pdf

LYME DISEASE Considerations in Diagnosis and Management

June 26, 2008 Lyme-Autism Connection Conference

125 pages - Powerpoint presentation

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LIver support is discussed here -- By the same author as above, Chapter 1 from the book "Insights Into Lyme Disease Treatment"

http://www.lymebook.com/steven-harris

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http://www.amazon.com/Insights-Into-Lyme-Disease-Treatment/dp/0982513801/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1272566632&sr=1-1

Insights Into Lyme Disease Treatment: 13 Lyme-Literate Health Care Practitioners Share Their Healing Strategies

Connie Strasheim (Author), Maureen Mcshane M.D. (Foreword), Thirteen Lyme-Literate Doctors (Contributor)

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Specific for LYME patients - lots of details about ears and what can help:

3/4 of the way down page one, there are lots of LIVER LINKS:

http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=065801

Topic: TINNITUS: Ringing Between The Ears; Vestibular, Balance, Hearing with compiled links - including HYPERACUSIS
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Posted by sparkle7 (Member # 10397) on :

Grapefruit seed extract is supposed to break cysts. You may want to try that. It's very strong. I don't know how old you son is. Maybe do some research on that...?

Posted by JT's Mom (Member # 24553) on :

Thanks for the suggestions.

Keebler - My son is already on milk thistle. His doc recommended it when I asked about liver support.

Posted by massman (Member # 18116) on :

There are some specifically mixed herbals that have been designed NOT to interact with drugs or to interact as little as possible. Also available in liquids.

And a specific cyst buster, ATAK.

Ask / tell your doc to get them for you.

www.systemicformulas.com
www.inno-vita.com
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DISCLAIMER: I get nothing, nada, no way nothing for recommending supplements from these companies.