when i went to my doc for thrush and told him i thought it could be systemic, he practically laughed.
he said systemic is extremely extremely rare and practically 99 percent of all doctors never see systemic yeast. he said it's only in terminal patients and those in hospice.
well i beg to differ but i think he's totally wrong.
i think a lot more people have systemic than doctor's realize.
or am i wrong too?
Posted by BackinStOlaf (Member # 23725) on :
Maybe it's 'rare' for 'normal' people, but for us who are on tons of meds, not as rare..
Posted by Need Lots of Help (Member # 18603) on :
Systematic yeast is very common. If he laughed at me, I would have asked him for a blood and stool test to check for yeast. I have systematic yeast.
I think some doctors are also coming around to understanding that these "chronic ear, sinus, and bronchitis" infections are being caused not only by bacteria, but by yeast. I haven't had a sinus infection since being on diflucan for 3 months straight. That is no coincidence to me!!
But, mainstream doctors don't believe in systematic yeast anymore than they do lyme disease. I had to go to the ER last night with hives and I got questioned about my PICC line and lyme disease. He wanted to know how they diagnosed it and how I knew I had lyme.
In the end, I was so knoweledgable and only told him the most important things, tick bite, joint pain/headaches/fatigue, and a CDC positive Lyme WB. I didn't say that I have had it for 20 years and I am still CDC positive!!! Posted by sixgoofykids (Member # 11141) on :
I think it's something more alternative type doctors are aware of, not your normal docs.
Posted by Lymetoo (Member # 743) on :
I think it is fairly common among us Lymies to have SYSTEMIC yeast.
Most docs have no clue what we deal with.
Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
- You said your "dr says systemic yeast "extremely rare" -
That he said it's only in terminal patients and those in hospice suggests he has no clue to the serious nature of lyme and how sick lyme patients can become with all systems go kaput.
To me, it seems that your doctor's ignorance is harming you. I would refuse to pay for inferior treatment and just not go back. If a doctor does not get the candida part of this, they are likely not educated enough to understand the more serious workings of lyme. Why waste your time?
Randi, have you used OLIVE LEAF EXTRACT? Jason's "Healthy Mouth"? If you want links about OLE, I can post that for you. OLE saved me from candida. -
Posted by sutherngrl (Member # 16270) on :
Is there a way to prove you have systemic yeast?
It may or may not be common. When I had thrush I treated it and it went away; when I had a vaginal yeast infection, I treated it and it went away. Neither ever came back.
I think some ppl just assume that if they are on meds and yeast shows up "anywhere" that they must have systemic yeast. And maybe they do; but can it be proven? Maybe its just in one area. Lots of ppl have yeast infections that are located in one area and when treated it clears up.
Not saying you can't have systemic yeast. Just wondering if it gets blown out of proportion in some cases.
Posted by Need Lots of Help (Member # 18603) on :
My doctor did a blood and a stool test. That told her it was in my blood and diffenitely in my gut. So, I was diagnosed as having "systemic yeast".
I don't know if there are other tests or not, but that was how I was diagnosed.
Posted by Remember to Smile (Member # 25481) on :
quote:Originally posted by Keebler: he has no clue to the serious nature of lyme and how sick lyme patients can become [when] all systems go kaput.
To me, it seems that your doctor's ignorance is harming you. I would refuse to pay for inferior treatment and just not go back. If a doctor does not get the candida part of this, they are likely not educated enough to understand the more serious workings of lyme.
As a well-educated scientist and current Lyme patient with a darn good LLMD, I agree with Keebler 100%!
Randibear, if you chose to "visit" that duck again, this would be the best outcome: Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
- I know this is not your regular LLMD. But, even for regular care, if the doctor is uneducated, it's just a waste. Really, though, OLE solved all my issues with candida. -
Posted by Remember to Smile (Member # 25481) on :
Randibear, At one point recently i thought you were considering traveling to a successful LLMD? I hope you pursue that. Smile
Posted by randibear (Member # 11290) on :
yes, keebler, anything you can send on it would be appreciated.
all he gave me is liquid nystatin and three pills of diflucan and that's it.
i do have a vitamin shoppe close by.
this is just the regular ole primary that i go to and yep am looking for another doc, but man, finding one who will at least even admit to knowing anything about lyme is almost impossible around here.
Posted by granniela (Member # 17134) on :
Randibear,
A probiotic by Jarrow called saccharomyces boulardii (there are other brands, too) helped me get past the recurrent yeast issues. I get it at Vitacost.com
My sis doesn't have Lyme but was diagnosed with systemic yeast last year and nothing the doc gave her worked. She tried the sac... bou... and said she felt better in 3 days and the symptoms have been gone since.
Maybe consider adding this probiotic to your others? Whatever you do, I hope you find more effective help.
![[Smile]](smile.gif)
![[puke]](graemlins/puke.gif)
![[group hug]](graemlins/grouphug.gif)