Does anyone suffer from DP or DR? I always associated it as being a symptom of a particular coinfection or Lyme since that is when it started, but now I realise it is its own condition. An acquaintance who does not have Lyme suffer from it, and pointed me to this site.
It seems for most people who have it, it stems from PTSD and also can be stress or drug triggered.
- Good point. It's good to look all around and see what helps the various sub-populations as there may be other contributing factors
It may be its own condition IF lyme is not involved. However, when lyme is involved, it's really best to also have LL professionals on board as it gets even more intricate.
Where lyme, exists, attention to treating lyme often resolves all sorts of symptoms. Lyme Encephalopathy and Lyme Encephalomyelitis are very complex. Toxic infections take a huge toll on all body systems and functions.
Bs sure to address this with a LLMD and, perhaps, a LL neuro-therapist. Methods used for "typical" psychological symptoms may help but they may also over look key components of brain infections such as lyme or bartonella, etc.
Adrenal support is vital in addressing all this, too. So much out brain and emotion stress can be helped with adrenal support. With lyme, that is even more important as the infection targets that system.
This book is specific to lyme and other chronic stealth infections. The author discusses the endocrine connection and effects of STRESS on a person with such infections. You can read customer reviews and look inside the book at this link to its page at Amazon.
The Potbelly Syndrome: How Common Germs Cause Obesity, Diabetes, And Heart Disease (Paperback) - 2005
by Russell Farris and Per Marin, MD, PhD
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Remember that lyme really messes up the HPA axis (Hypothalamus/pituitary/adrenal network). The pituitary has much to do with weight/growth. Mess up any part of the endocrine system and other parts suffer, too.
Curcumin Prevents Some Stress-Related Changes (By CP Staff)
Excerpts:
A recently published study investigated the effects of curcumin, a constituent of the botanical turmeric, on changes in cognition and memory caused by stress. . . .
. . . In this new study, researchers investigated the effect of curcumin supplementation on stress-induced learning defects in mice. . . .
. . . In addition, curcumin reversed the stress-induced increase in the levels of serum corticosterone, the primary hormone secreted during the stress response. . . .
. . . The researchers concluded, ``Thus, curcumin may be an effective therapeutic for learning and memory disturbances as was seen within these stress models, and
its neuroprotective effect was mediated in part by normalizing the corticosterone response, resulting in down-regulating of the phosphorylated calcium/calmodulin kinase II and glutamate receptor levels.''
The Potbelly Syndrome: How Common Germs Cause Obesity, Diabetes, And Heart Disease (Paperback) - 2005
by Russell Farris (Author), Per Marin (Author)
Much about stress reactions here. - you can read customer reviews at the link. Attention is given to lyme and other chronic stealth infections however, it does not go into details about solutions.
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This is not a lyme book.
This book has only one reference to lyme (in the historical use of sarsarparilla for another spirochetal infection). However, it is a vital first book to read - or a reference - for anyone interested in understanding nutritional methods.
Search for Ashwagandha; Cordyceps; Siberian Ginseng in this book:
Graciously, much of this book is on line. It can also be purchased from this site or through Amazon where you can look inside the book and see many customer reviews.
The Rhodiola Revolution byt Richard P. Brown, MD and Patricia L. Gerbarg, MD, et.al.
See this at Amazon.
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If help beyond supplements is needed, sometimes LLMDs will prescribe LOW DOSE CORTEF (Hydrocortisone).
While steroids are dangerous with lyme, the low-dose Cortef is more like the body should be producing, but can't and lyme patients who need it generally do very well with it. A few may not be able to handle it.
Usually, the adrenal supplements are employed first.
For many good past LymeNet Threads, you can search here: -------------------------------
Yes a symptom of Lyme and co.....but also something your body does to protect itself from the trauma of Lyme and co. Chicken and egg...?
Posted by jwall (Member # 22999) on :
this was one of my first symptoms (most likely from lyme infection, although I didn't know it at the time)...very scary.
the more anxiety you get, the worse it becomes. It's best to realize what it is and then try to remain calm.
I thought I might be going crazy at the time, esp. when doctors could not tell me what was wrong. It was a mental and physical cascade of symptoms all at once. I also had the inner ear problem and I've heard that the inner ear can induce derealization/depersonalization as well. Not a fun symptom at all! Still deal with it from time to time and really praying treatment will help it resolve.