Bismuth aggregates were attached to the cysts and, in some, the pin-shaped aggregates penetrated the cyst wall.
The bismuth aggregates also bound strongly to blebs and granules of B. burgdorferi when RBC > or = MBC. When B. burgdorferi is responsible for ***gastrointestinal symptoms***, bismuth compounds may be candidates for eradication of the bacterium from the gastrointestinal tract.
PMID: 12051564
Note swallowing bismuth does turn things (mouth, stool) BLACK...
Only the citrate form and subsalicylate forms are safe for human consumption...ORALLY.
Keep in mind while Bismuth citrate and Zantac looked to destroy Bb...first it had to be "out in the open" which it is not. Or it had to allow the opening of a channel to let it go into the infected cell.
This is for sure...we are trying to figure out which metal compounds might cure lyme...as we have done for other pathogens:
"Based on in vitro dissociation data and in vivo animal data, bismuth subsalicylate is believed to be largely hydrolyzed in the stomach to
bismuth ***oxychloride*** and salicylic acid.
In the small intestine, nondissociated bismuth subsalicylate reacts with other anions (bicarbonate and phosphate) to form insoluble bismuth salts. In the colon, nondissociated bismuth subsalicylate and other bismuth salts react with hydrogen sulfide to produce bismuth sulfide, a highly insoluble black salt responsible for the darkening of the stools.
Well...Bb does trigger cell death (apotosis)in all the cells it infects.
C8H16O2? That is Caprylic acid...well it does convert to BHB and enter the cell citric acid cycle -> more ATP in the infected cell thus enabling the infected cell to "finish off" Bb?
C8 does appear to form a little "cage" and "activated charcoal" does remove toxins...
Brainstorming.
Posted by little_olive (Member # 28063) on :
Hi cleo. I'm havign trouble understanding why you're seeing an LLMD when you do not have Lyme disease?
Borrelia IS Lyme disease, isn't it? So to get tested a 23rd time might be useless?
Have you repeatedly tested negative for bartonella, like you did for Lyme?
It rarely shows up in bloodwork and is my main problem right now.
I am also positive for mycoplasma.
I'm curious, what are your symptoms?
little olive
Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
- Marnie's detail is very good. Many things can elevate the histamine reaction and that is no small part of feeling awful.
Cleo,
Cpn treatment is not easy and whether they call it a herx or not, treatment is gruelling. Secondary Porphyria is also a big concern with Cpn treatment and elevated porphryins can be create the same symptoms as a herx.