I don't mean IC (I know this is related to Lyme) but an actual UTI or bladder infection. Or is it just a random coincidence?
One LLMD i have asked says yes, the other says no.
Thanks!
Posted by LymeDACnow (Member # 4649) on :
I don't know but I can say from experience this is what I know:
Prior to official LD dx in 2003 (having been infected >13yrs) I had very frequent bladder and kidney infections which was eventually diagnosed as "chronic pylonephritis". Once I began treatment for lyme and co. never had any issues with that.
I have not been on abx for LD since May 2009. No UTI's until Jan. 2010, another in May, then in July, treated by PCP with 7 days of Cipro each time. Last one in August 7 days of Macrobid and referral to a urologist (whom I haven't seen yet).
Also usually test positive for blood with UA's with or w/o infection and frequently visible hematuria.
I am interested to hear other replies to your question.
Posted by Maradona (Member # 24552) on :
Yes it is frequent thing in lyme and in patients who use antibiotics for long time.Also yeast infection of bladder is very frequent .Cranberry juice is very good thing to drink all the time if you are done with lyme you will controll UTI with cranberry juice and fluids.
Posted by Lymetoo (Member # 743) on :
My LLMD said Lyme likes to camp out in the bladder. It's one of the spirochetes' favorite places.
Go to the health food store and buy some D-Mannose with Cran Actin... It will keep those UTI's at bay!!
Posted by Haley (Member # 22008) on :
I got a UTI after being on meds for a while. In my case I think it was all the meds that caused it. If it is a resistant bacteria it is difficult to treat.
Posted by karenl (Member # 17753) on :
It also can be cpn, cpnhelp.org. I think it is mostly cpn, this is almost a coinfection in lyme.
Posted by nefferdun (Member # 20157) on :
It is also very common with bartonella infections. Often you feel extremely irritated, with the need to go all the time, but you do not test positive for anything. I even had bladder pain associated with it. I have read the bladder is one of the favorite places for the bugs, both lyme and bart, to hide out.
Posted by Marnie (Member # 773) on :
You likely know that people with UTIs are told to drink cranberry juice, right?
Look very closely at what the active components in cranberry juice are and HOW THEY WORK. (I'm talking about pure cranberry juice NOT the kind with added sugar.)
Google: cranberry juice contains
Find the phytochemicals.
Go deeper...click on the blue highlighted words (in that section) too until you see the word *chloride* mentioned. Skim the information.
Bb triggers calcium activated chloride channels.
If we can find something to bind to chloride besides Na...(Bb impacts CaCl, NaCl, MgCl and KCL...though it will move away from KCL).
Bb needs NaCl for motility. The calcium activated chloride channels are in full swing.
Bb looks to exchange H for Na.
Frontline blocks chloride channels in the ticks attached to our dogs and thus prevents transmission.
But blocking chloride channels in US is reserved for very serious diseases (chemotherapy - which makes us very sick).
Tamoxifen is a man-made PKC inhibitor that also blocks chloride channels, but sometimes the cells continue to resist death...in steps EPA...yea, the omega 3 fatty acid to lower PGE2 and makes the drug more effective to destroy breast cancer cells. The COMBINATION is what works.
PKC = calcium activated phosphate (K = kinase) transfer onto a protein.
Bb has one PKC inhibitor which looks to be PKCB2, but that doesn't mean the OTHER PKCs (and their subsets) are not being activated, they are.
Also go further...okay, I'll help...
Google these words: cranberry juice tyrosine kinase.
Other things inhibit tyrosine kinase too.
Genistein is one. It is in green tea which is, of course, very good for us due to its MANY beneficial components.
When many pathogens are destroyed (yeast included), histamine "happens". Be prepared. Have Benadryl on hand for the "allergic reaction".
Many many viruses NEED our histamine response to happen for them to invade. They count on our "wrong" response.
There are 4 histamine receptors though it appears H1 and H2 are of primary importance.
Only the H1 blockers cross the BBB and make us sleepy (Benadryl) unless taken with sublingual B6.
(Bendectin was a H1 blocker with B6 in a coated - protect from stomach acids - tablet).
Common H2 blockers include Maalox and the well known Zantac (= ranitidine). They lower our stomach acid which is HCL.
You know about Tritec and Bb, right? Bismuth is not exactly a "mild antibiotic"...
To the best of my ability.
Posted by janet thomas (Member # 7122) on :
Blood in the urine (hematuria)is common with Babesia and malaria.
Posted by WildCondor (Member # 434) on :
D-mannose works awesome! I would try that over antibiotics for sure. Try Manno Max.
Posted by unsure445 (Member # 15962) on :
Thank you for the responses!
As it turns out, my many, many UTI symptoms are not an infection after all (culture was negative)!! And, I have been herxing on the abx prescribed for the supposed infection!!!
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