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Posted by jersey321 (Member # 11942) on :
 
Howdy folks,

I'm 29, my entire life ive been one of those skinny males that has crazy metabolism and had a hard time getting over 150 pounds no matter what i ate or how many weights i lifted.

When i finished 6 months of rocephin in March of 2009 I weighed 140 pounds....last week i weighed myself and i was 180!

For my height i am defenitely now "overweight" and whats even worse is 90% of it is accumulating in my midsection - i look like im 8 months pregnant (ha)

anyways, my diet is not "that bad" so im wondering what the heck is going on.....im going to schedule an appt with my llmd but i thought i would post this to see if anyone has had a similar experience
 
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Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
 
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Lyme is just one of many stealth infections that can cause either loss (early on) or gain (usually later). Whichever, adrenal support is key to normalizing that. (With the assumption that everyone already has a healthful eating plan).

This book is specific to lyme and other chronic stealth infections. The author discusses the endocrine connection and effects of STRESS on a person with such infections. You can read customer reviews and look inside the book at this link to its page at Amazon.

http://tinyurl.com/6xse7l

The Potbelly Syndrome: How Common Germs Cause Obesity, Diabetes, And Heart Disease (Paperback) - 2005

by Russell Farris and Per Marin, MD, PhD

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Remember that lyme really messes up the HPA axis (Hypothalamus/pituitary/adrenal network). The pituitary has much to do with weight/growth. Mess up any part of the endocrine system and other parts suffer, too.

http://www.ilads.org/lyme_disease/B_guidelines_12_17_08.pdf

See page 4 where Dr. Burrascano describes a bit about the considerations of the dysfunction with the HYPOTHALAMIC-PITUITARY AXIS

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http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez

PubMed Search:

infection, obesity - 2433 abstracts

viruses, obesity - 388 abstracts

viral, obesity - 464 abstracts

bacteria, obesity - 889 abstracts

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One of those:

J Dent Res. 2009 Jun;88(6):519-23.

Is obesity an oral bacterial disease?

Excerpt:

. . . It seems likely that these bacterial species could serve as biological indicators of a developing overweight condition.

Of even greater interest, and the subject of future research, is the possibility that oral bacteria may participate in the pathology that leads to obesity. . . .

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ADRENAL SUPPORT can make a difference so as to minimize the cortisol damage.

Cordyceps is recommend here:

This is included in Burrascano's Guidelines, but you may want to be able to refer to it separately, too:

http://www.lymepa.org/Nutritional_Supplements.pdf

Nutritional Supplements in Disseminated Lyme Disease

J.J. Burrascano, Jr., MD (2008)

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Great information about treatments options and support measures, including those to help adrenal/endocrine function:

http://tinyurl.com/6lq3pb (through Amazon)

THE LYME DISEASE SOLUTION (2008)

- by KS , MD

You can read more about it here and see customer reviews.

Web site: www.lymedoctor.com

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http://www.prohealth.com/ME-CFS/library/showArticle.cfm?libid=14383&B1=EM031109C

http://tinyurl.com/detwtt

Underactive Adrenal Gland - Stresses and Problems with the Body's 'Gear Box' - by Dr. Sarah Myhill, MD

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Many libraries carry this book and you can read 95 customer reviews here (average 4.5 star out of 5) AND see inside the book:

www.amazon.com/Adrenal-Fatigue-Century-Stress-Syndrome/dp/1890572152/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1263516913&sr=8-1

Adrenal Fatigue: The 21st Century Stress Syndrome

~ James L. Wilson, ND, DC, PhD, Johnathan V. Wright, MD

About $10. And qualifies for free shipping with a total $25. Purchase at Amazon

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http://www.vrp.com/botanicals-and-herbs/curcumin-prevents-some-stress-related-changes

Curcumin Prevents Some Stress-Related Changes

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http://www.consciouslivingcenter.com/articles.html

3rd article down:

Belly Fat: Another Consequence of Stress

by Zsuzsanna Fajcsak M.S., C.N.S

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Reminder here: "stress" does not mean to imply a weak or whimpy personality or lack of willpower or character. Stress - is a very serious medical condition stemming from the "stress" infection takes on the body.

Adrenal support is absolutely essential in addition to treating infection(s).

Still, as long as good self-care and non-aerobic exercise is part of our life, until infections are cleared, weight loss may not be possible. For many with infection-caused weight gain, along with good self-care, when the infections were adequately treated, the weight was fast to follow by dropping off the radar.

The "Potbelly" book as several startling examples of that with lyme and Cpn patients.
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Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
 
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There are several important posts here relevant to this issue, including WHY aerobic exercise is best avoided during infection - and choices of non-aerobic exercises that are of benefit -

- and how inflammation acts to protect us but also can contribute to weight gain and what can help:
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http://flash.lymenet.org/ubb/ultimatebb.php/topic/1/77325

Topic: To everyone with CARDIAC symptoms please read !
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Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
 
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http://www.thehumansideoflyme.net/viewarticle.php?aid=62

"Bell's Palsy of the Gut" and
Other GI Manifestations of
Lyme and Associated Diseases

PRACTICAL GASTROENTEROLOGY

by Virginia T. Sherr, MD - April 2006

Excerpt:

. . . Another borrelial cause of massive increases in abdominal girth associated with "gasless" bloating may cause diagnostic confusion. Unrelated to gut symptoms from Lyme's disruption of the body's internal "wiring," Bb-inflicted polyradiculopathies of T7- 12 (nerve root inflammations) may result in paralysis of external abdominal muscles such as the rectus abdominus.

This in turn can also lead to the appearance, not the reality, of extensive bloating.

No exercise "crunches" will alleviate this distention even for a previously well-toned individual. Antibiotic treatment for borreliosis may resolve this symptom (45, 46) . . . .

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SCROLL DOWN to find this article, just below the opening image:

http://www.personalconsult.com/articles/obesityandbartonella.html

Bartonella, Babesia, Indoor Mold and Obesity (by Dr. J.S.)

- Scroll down for illustrations and photos.

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Don't be saddened or scared by the photos, as shocking as they are, this should be seen as a medical condition.

Know that treating infections and supporting the body can change things - it just may take a while so patience and self-understanding and love are vital.

Be sure to have only the kindest self-talk. Forget judgements and forget everything you thought you knew about body size. Focus on inner health and the outside will catch up when the inside is better.

A gluten-free, dairy-free diet often helps, by the way - for many reasons. And do be sure to eat well. Eat enough. Do not starve as that makes weight gain worse. Enjoy a variety healthful, delicious and nutritious foods.

SLEEP really matters.
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Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
 
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http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=6197433n&tag=cbsnewsSectionContent.1

CBS Early Morning News Video: about 4 minutes.

Stephen Perrine, author of book: The New American Diet

``Obesogens'' - chemicals that make you fat

Lists: Pesticides, Bovine artifical hormones in beef, stuff in plastic resin lining of cans (BPA) . . .

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I have some objections to a few things he says:

He recommends some organic foods ands that is good. However, he's wrong about conventional bananas, they can absorb chemicals inside to the fruit.

He recommended tuna in pouches ? Oh, no....mercury is high in tuna and it's cooked inside the plastic pouch - not good.

Grass fed beef is best (it's even at Costco),

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HEAVY METALS can also contribute to weight gain.

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Search: endocrine disruptors

You can learn how all plastics, including plastic water bottles can cause weight gain - along with scented products and household chemicals, nail polish, hair dye, etc. can contribute not only to obesity but also to other medical conditions.
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Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
 
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Liver stress will also enlarge the abdomen. Be sure liver support is always on board. Infections - and medicines - can add a lot of stress for the liver.

Excess toxins add weight but that needs to come off gently and slowly. To push it can add stress to the liver and a flood of toxins that our body can't manage and then it creates more problems.

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http://flash.lymenet.org/ubb/ultimatebb.php/topic/1/95307

Topic: no aerobic exercise?? And suggestions for good exercise

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http://www.vrp.com/physical-performance/can-exercise-pollute-your-body

CAN EXERCISE "POLLUTE" YOUR BODY ?

Health News - By VRP Staff

Believe it or not, toxic free radical molecules and oxidation by-products are produced whenever you exercise.

Everyone knows that exercise is related to improved muscle, heart and lung function... but it does have a downside, too. 1,2

All of your workouts' positive effects begin with oxidative phosphorylation, a pathway that your body uses to generate energy (known as adenosine triphosphate or ATP) at the cellular level.

Unfortunately, this respiratory process--paired with your muscles' contractions and additional environmental factors like certain preservatives in foods and beverages, sun exposure and smog--produces by-products that pollute your body and lead to the formation of damaging free radicals.3

And studies show that this excess free radical exposure can pave the way to DNA mutations, premature aging and cell death, muscle weakness, fatigue and chronic oxidative stress.4-5

So how can you get the best benefits of regular exercise--without placing your body at risk in the process?

Proper antioxidant support is one effective way: Extensive research shows that safe, natural substances including vitamins A, C and E, N-acetyl cysteine, lutein, rosemary leaf extract, turmeric, green tea, bilberry and grape seed extract are all potent free radical quenchers . . . .

- Cont'd at link above.

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In addition to antioxidant support, please refer to Burrascano's guidelines regarding self-care and safe non-aerobic exercise recommendations.

Exercise is vital - it just needs to be the right kind in the right degrees.

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http://www.ilads.org/lyme_disease/B_guidelines_12_17_08.pdf

Advanced Topics in Lyme Disease (Diagnostic Hints and Treatment Guidelines for Lyme and Other Tick Borne Illnesses

Dr. Burrascano's Treatment Guidelines (2008) - 37 pages

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As important as any supplements, sections regarding self-care:

Go to page 27 for SUPPORTIVE THERAPY & the CERTAIN ABSOLUTE RULES

and also pages 31-32 for advice on a safe, non-aerobic exercise plan and physical rehabilitation.

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This is included in Burrascano's Guidelines, but you may want to be able to refer to it separately, too:

http://www.lymepa.org/Nutritional_Supplements.pdf

** Nutritional Supplements in Disseminated Lyme Disease **

J.J. Burrascano, Jr., MD (2008) - Four pages
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Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
 
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In addition to the usual coinfections from ticks (such as babesia, bartonella, ehrlichia, RMSF, etc.), there are some other chronic stealth infections that an excellent LLMD should know about:

http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=069911#000000

TIMACA #6911 posted 03 August, 2008

I would encourage EVERY person who has received a lyme diagnosis to get the following tests.

- at link.

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Also consider the retrovirus that has recently been discovered and may affect many lyme patients. XMRV / HGRV. New information is coming out all the time on this.
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Posted by Lymetoo (Member # 743) on :
 
I would look to possible Candida as the cause. The sugar and carb cravings increase while we are on abx.

Clean up the diet and eliminate sugars and white foods.
 
Posted by seibertneurolyme (Member # 6416) on :
 
Another issue to consider would be insensitivity to insulin. Pre diabetes or hypoglcemia symptoms for example. There are supplements such as chromium and alpha lipoic acid which can help. The best and easiest supplement would be to take cinnamon capsules or tablets.

Bea Seibert
 


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