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Posted by beths (Member # 18864) on :
 
I'm on day 7 of malarone/zith/doxy. Started feeling worse yesterday..more fatigue, mild dizzy and nausea. Muscles ache.

I thought the herx started on day 4-is this a hard and fast rule?

How long do they last?

Isn't there another herx at week 4?

Hate to be going thru this again, but much more tolerable then when I first got sick
 
Posted by TF (Member # 14183) on :
 
Babesia flares every 7 days. So, instead of a herx, this could be a babs flare.

Mark it down and see when you get the next one.

My flares lasted 48 hours. Got them every 7 days once I started treating babs.

Will you be adding artemesinin at some point? That reduced my flares dramatically.

Lyme flares every 4 weeks so the week 4 herx for lyme can be bad.
 
Posted by beths (Member # 18864) on :
 
oh, I am on ART. 5 days on, 2 off.
 
Posted by Amanda (Member # 14107) on :
 
There are no hard and fast rules about Babs flares or lyme flares.

Some people have Babs die offs every 5 days, some every 14 days.

sorry, no easy answers, everyone is different.
 
Posted by beths (Member # 18864) on :
 
I feel weak and shakey-anyone else experience that with babs treatment?
 
Posted by lululymemom (Member # 26405) on :
 
My daughter had those episodes. Even during her sleep. For her, it was a blood sugar issue while treating babs. She was helped alot by eating a piece of fruit like an apple.
 
Posted by beths (Member # 18864) on :
 
Well-I'm on day 7 of babs meds, and week 4 of lyme meds...I guess I'm having a double herx-bad timing.
 
Posted by nybasketball212 (Member # 28309) on :
 
No herx, there's nothing to suggest that there is even a die-off reaction for something like babesia. Babesia drugs do make you feel more tired.
 
Posted by Starfall (Member # 26795) on :
 
I'm a week on malarone, and today I have had the worst air hunger, anxiety and muscle twitching I've had in a while.

I've also had issues with sound sensitivity today that I haven't had this bad in a long time--kids are really loud today and driving me CRAZY!!!!
 
Posted by beths (Member # 18864) on :
 
nybasketball212-I've heard that there are no herx's from babs-but I'm not so sure.

Starfall-can you describe air hunger? I feel like I'm breathing harder just sitting doing nothing-but I don't feel like I'm sucking air thru a straw. Whats the dif between air hunger and shortness of breath?
 
Posted by Sammi (Member # 110) on :
 
I agree that herxes with Babs can vary individually. I have felt weak and shaky from it also.
 
Posted by Starfall (Member # 26795) on :
 
With my air hunger, I feel like I'm getting a full breath, but there's not enough oxygen in the air. That's the best I can describe it.

And yes, I can get it either while moving around or while sitting. It's usually better when I lie down, but I had a bad night the other night that it kept waking me up.
 
Posted by nefferdun (Member # 20157) on :
 
It takes four days for Mepron to begin to build up in your blood and 3-4 weeks to reach theraputic levels. The worst herxes are around three- four weeks.

The first month I became much more depressed with terrible dizziness and extreme fatigue - no stamina. It was pretty bad.

After the worst month, it has been two steps forward, one step back. After 3 and 1/2 months, I now have good days when I can do things and feel a bit motivated and even happy and excited about plans.

I never planned anything while really sick. My brain couldn't put together a string of words to make a thought to create a plan. It was an overwhelming feeling of stupidity and confusion. I felt crushed by the dreariness of it all.
 
Posted by beths (Member # 18864) on :
 
Is that the same for malarone?

Before my relapse, toward the end of treatment taking malarone was like taking candy!

I guess my babs is back
 
Posted by nefferdun (Member # 20157) on :
 
Malarone contains Mepron so I guess it would be similar.
 


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