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Posted by shetawk (Member # 31597) on :
 
Lab results.

23 kd igm band reactive

Lyme disease AB (IGG) WB NEGATIVE
18 KD (IGG) BAND NON-REACTIVE
23 KD (IGG) BAND NON-REACTIVE
28 KD (IGG) BAND NON-REACTIVE
30 KD (IGG) BAND NON-REACTIVE
39 KD (IGG) BAND NON-REACTIVE
41 KD (IGG) BAND NON-REACTIVE
45 KD (IGG) BAND NON-REACTIVE
58 KD (IGG) BAND NON-REACTIVE
66 KD (IGG) BAND NON-REACTIVE
93 KD (IGG) BAND NON-REACTIVE

Lyme disease AB (IGG) WB NEGATIVE
23 KD (IGM) BAND REACTIVE
39 KD (IGM) BAND NON-REACTIVE
11 KD (IGM) BAND NON-REACTIVE

This was from Quest, who continuously told my doc negative.

Have had symptoms since 2006 and am now told Parkinson's. Since there isn't a known Parkinson's germ, I'm looking for anything that can affect the brain. Just want to be able to type with two hands, and walk again, not like a drunk, so I can get back to work.

Aetna said they won't pay for IgenEx because quest, who they contract with, does same studies. Medicare won't pick it up if Aetna refuses.

Which other factors should they have tested for that IgenEx does? I want to get back to Aetna & Medicare and tell them.
Thank you. Shetawk
 
Posted by Lymetoo (Member # 743) on :
 
Igenex tests for ALL POSSIBLE bands .. Quest does not.

Band 23 is specific to Lyme.

I got Aetna to pay for Igenex... took me 9 mo of hounding though.

Dr C's Western Blot explanation:

http://tinyurl.com/ffn3x
 
Posted by shetawk (Member # 31597) on :
 
<Igenex tests for ALL POSSIBLE bands>

Where can I find a list of bands Igenex tests for?

Thank you.
 
Posted by Lymetoo (Member # 743) on :
 
not sure, try here:

www.igenex.com You need test #188 and 189
 
Posted by Robin123 (Member # 9197) on :
 
Medicare does cover IGeneX testing, so I don't understand your comment.

Fyi, someone here is treating their Parkinson's symptoms with shots of something called Nupogen (spelling?).
 
Posted by TerryK (Member # 8552) on :
 
This explains why IgeneX is better.
http://www.igenex.com/innovations3.pdf


Take a look at the graph to see how often 23 shows up in controls.

Terry
 
Posted by shetawk (Member # 31597) on :
 
<Medicare does cover IGeneX testing, so I don't understand your comment.>

Medicare is secondary. My primary is spouse's Aetna QPOS. Medicare said, as secondary,they won't pay for services refused by my primary. Aetna.

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<Fyi, someone here is treating their Parkinson's symptoms with shots of something called Nupogen >

Thank you.

Doxy helped a lot till it thrushed me. Just began bee venom for Lyme et al.

http://www.klinghardtacademy.com/Protocols/The-Treatment-of-Lyme-Disease-with-Bee-Venom.html

"The pain relieving effect of bee venom in the treatment of clinical conditions similar to Lyme disease has been established a long time ago.

Bee venom contains a number of potent peptides which are responsible for its healing effect ("Bee Venom Therapy for Chronic Pain," Dietrich Klinghardt, J. of Neurol and Orthop. Med and Surg., Vol. 11, Issue 9, Oct 1990, pp. 195-197).


Recent research proved that one of the peptides in bee venom, melittin, has a strong inhibitory effect on the Lyme spirochete at very low doses ("Bee Stings as Lyme Inhibitor" by L. L. Lubke and C. F. Garon, J. Clin. Infect. Diseases, July 1997, 25 Suppl. 1, pp. 48-51).

When the spirochete is inhibited it does not multiply and is vulnerable to the host's own immune system and to medication.

The dosage and frequency of treatment is determined by the patient's clinical response.

Patients with Babesia or Mycoplasma infections require higher dosages then those with only B. burgdorferi infections.

Different bee venoms are on the market. I use the product VeneX, which comes in two different strengths: VeneX-10 and VeneX-20 (Table 1.). VeneX-20 is twice as concentrated as VeneX-10. VeneX-10 contains 1.0 mg of bee venom per 1.0 ml. A 0.1 ml of this solution delivers approximately the same amount of bee venom as a natural bee sting.

The content of melittin in bee venom is dependent on where it is collected on the hive; the season and the pollen source the bees have access to at the time.


Generally between one third and one half of the venom is melittin. Because of these variables the symptoms seen on administration of the venom can also vary.

Bee venom is used for desensitization and is approved with the FDA for this purpose. There is an official monograph in the Homeopathic Pharmacopoea of the United States (HPUS), also recognized by the FDA. "

Also taking acupuncture, vites, etc., iodine, magnesium, quintessence, chlorella, garlic and finished Anti-helmetic meds.
 


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