Why Did SANE Vax Inc. Investigate Possible Gardasil Contamination?
The mother of a sexually na�ve adolescent girl who developed acute onset Juvenile Rheumatoid Arthritis within 24 hours of her last injection of the Gardasil� series contacted SANE Vax Inc. looking for more information.
In an effort to help her now very sick daughter the mother went to an MD practicing naturopath who conducted a toxicity test that eventually found HPV DNA in the girl�s blood.
The significance of this finding is that it is highly unusual to find HPV DNA in the blood. HPV, if present in the body, exists in the epithelial (skin and mucosa) membranes.
HPV or its DNA, by itself does not survive for any great length of time in the bloodstream. Why was the HPV DNA in her bloodstream two years post-vaccination?
Brings back memories I try and forget about the failed Lymerix vaccine. How I wish I never volunteered for that ....
Posted by mom2kids (Member # 31972) on :
Another reason to refuse it over and over for my daughter. My pedi also is trying to get me to vaccinate my son with it also. Ughhh!
Posted by tricia386 (Member # 29623) on :
Dont even get me started on Gardasil i was one of the Gardasil girls. My life has been a mess since 24...I am 25 now.. If you want to hear my story or ask my questions please let me know.
Posted by scorpiogirl (Member # 31907) on :
I don't understand how they can justify giving this crap to young girls as young as 9 years old.
The risk for cervical cancer (which by the way is very slow grow cancer and curable), is what 12,000 new cases a year? And they want to vaccinate all the little girls for that? No thanks I'll take my chances!
Posted by tricia386 (Member # 29623) on :
This vaccine messed me up bad, I dont knwo if I will ever be the same honestly. Its very scary. I get so depressed I ever got it. And now I am battaling lyme.
Posted by merrygirl (Member # 12041) on :
I would like to know more. my daughter is 10. I plan on denying it, but would like info
Posted by Lymetoo (Member # 743) on :
I'd be willing to bet there is an online support group for those who have been injured by Gardisil.
Posted by scorpiogirl (Member # 31907) on :
For me personally it just doesn't make sense! The rate of cervical cancer per year is only 12,000 so WHY would I want to put my kids at risk for that?? This is a very slow growing and treatable cancer so all in all the benefits isn't worth the risk to me. So no way I'm giving my kids this.
Posted by momintexas (Member # 23391) on :
In Texas, school age girls had to get it.
I'll refrain what I have to say about that...... Posted by tricia386 (Member # 29623) on :
Your right there is a group. Anyone who wants any information on this can PM me. I have been living this nightmare for awhile.
Posted by sammy (Member # 13952) on :
The vaccine is to help protect against HPV. HPV can cause cervical cancer, anal/rectal cancer, oral cancer, throat cancer... It is also one of the main causes of pelvic inflammatory disease and infertility.
Posted by scorpiogirl (Member # 31907) on :
Again, you have to take a look at the RISKS vs the benefits. What % of people w/ HPV then later developed "cervical cancer, anal/rectal cancer, oral cancer, throat cancer... It is also one of the main causes of pelvic inflammatory disease and infertility"?
Recently we got notices that all the 8th grader has to get pertussis booster shot BEFORE they can start school this year. I opted out due to "personal beliefs".
Posted by Lymetoo (Member # 743) on :
quote:Originally posted by momintexas: In Texas, school age girls had to get it.
- It didn't get that far, did it?
-- found this:
"The governor of Texas, Rick Perry, issued an executive order adding Gardasil to the states required vaccination list which was later overturned by the Texas legislature. Perry has also allowed parents to more easily opt-out of the program."
Posted by momintexas (Member # 23391) on :
Well, it was later overturned by Texas Legislature so I'm not sure....
I agree, the HPV vaccine shouldn't be forced on girls (or boys).
Posted by Tincup (Member # 5829) on :
UGGGGGGGGG!!!
I actually wrote the Texas Governor (and others) when he tried to get the girls vaccinated in Texas (mandatory). I was NOT happy about it at all.
I carefully followed this vaccine through the process and read all the information about it I could find, and it kept smacking of the LymeRix vaccine. Sounded as if it was almost the same thing and it was done in the same shoddy fashion.
Check this out for more info and see what is going on. They are now trying to push it on the Canadians.
ARG this stuff just makes me angry too. I was in the Navy when everyone ended up with HPV (navy people all living in the same quarters and sleeping together...very young and stupid). This was in 1988. I have a pap every year and it hasn't shown up in 10-15 years. Granted it might be in my blood stream? I don't know. The Gardisil vaccine has killed so many children. Most of them are reported in other countries. Just like others noted on this thread look at the risks vs the benefits.
Posted by Lymetoo (Member # 743) on :
It's also wrong to force flu vaccines on us. They came VERY close to doing that 2 yrs ago. (or was that last year?)
They'd have to come after me.
Posted by tricia386 (Member # 29623) on :
Vaccine is what caused me to get lyme
Posted by Lymetoo (Member # 743) on :
Only the Lymerix vaccine can give you Lyme. Perhaps you already had dormant Lyme and a vaccine lowered your immune system so the Lyme could take over.
Posted by tricia386 (Member # 29623) on :
Well yes thats what I meant... This vaccine is horribble
Posted by jlp38 (Member # 27221) on :
Check this out Tricia. You're gonna be royally ticked. They are implementing forced vaccines in California IN MINORS and WITHOUT PARENTAL CONSENT. Hopefully it will get vetoed. Otherwise it will become law.
This is something we're working on here now - there's a bill on the governor's desk now, waiting to be signed, and everyone in this state and across the country is contacting him - DON"T SIGN this bill!!
It says they can pull kids aside in school without telling the parents. Whoa Nellie - what about parental consent? That's why parents' groups are up in arms across the country.
Merck, the manufacturer of the vaccine, paid a lot of our state reps some bucks. So for a little money they sell out our state's kids?
Anyone is welcome to call the governor's office here and give them an earful. Including that the vaccine isn't safe and isn't even proven to work.
Posted by tricia386 (Member # 29623) on :
I would love to call
Posted by Lymetoo (Member # 743) on :
That is so wrong!
Posted by scorpiogirl (Member # 31907) on :
quote:Originally posted by jlp38: Check this out Tricia. You're gonna be royally ticked. They are implementing forced vaccines in California IN MINORS and WITHOUT PARENTAL CONSENT. Hopefully it will get vetoed. Otherwise it will become law.
GET THE HELL OUT OF HERE!! You got to be kidding me!! I was just down at the health office signing a "Personal Beliefs" form to get my kid out of the Whopping Cough Vaccine and now this?!
Oh I'm not happy!!
Posted by jlp38 (Member # 27221) on :
You can call or email from any state. I'm sure he'll be more likely to listen to Californians, but he has a chance to set a precedent here and influence other states. I hope he chooses the right way to go. I believe there is a link in the article to make it easy to email.
Posted by jlp38 (Member # 27221) on :
It really doesn't matter if you are pro-vaccine or anti-vax. The question is, do you want parents to make decisions for children or the govt?
Posted by James1979 (Member # 31926) on :
quote:Originally posted by jlp38: It really doesn't matter if you are pro-vaccine or anti-vax. The question is, do you want parents to make decisions for children or the govt?
+1. Amen.
Posted by scorpiogirl (Member # 31907) on :
Exactly!! I should have the right to do what I feel is best for my children. I don't need the Gov't to dictate that to me. I called the Governor's office already.
They asked for my name and zip code. I wonder how many times I can call?
Posted by jlp38 (Member # 27221) on :
You DO have that right!
Posted by Robin123 (Member # 9197) on :
This is a precedent state - if they can get it passed here, it's more likely to be tried in other states. So call the governor's office here - NO GARDASIL BILL!!!
1) Runs roughshod over parental consent and informing parents, takes advantage of kids not knowing much about the situation when asked if they can be given the shot.
2) not guaranteed to work
3) 49 girls are already reported to have died from it
4) countless side effects reported
5) looks like it may have recombinant DNA in it that may mess up young girls' physiology and physically hurt them in time. See the top post here!
6) there are natural ways to handle the HPV STD problem, and immune-boosting.
Posted by amk33 (Member # 13206) on :
Check out this link that explains about how the vaccine contains HPV dna, which can cause the recipient to test positive for HPV after vaccination.
If you've been watching the GOP debates at all, this has been an issue there too. Rick Perry signed an executive order mandating this vaccine. Thankfully Texas said "no way" to him and repealed it.
Posted by Lymetoo (Member # 743) on :
quote:Originally posted by jlp38: [QB] It really doesn't matter if you are pro-vaccine or anti-vax. The question is, do you want parents to make decisions for children or the govt?
- Amen to that!
I don't even want the government making decisions for ME!
Posted by Brussels (Member # 13480) on :
We arrived to the point where the governments in most of the Western world are working for certain groups of people, who own the economy and the finances.
The governments are corrupt, bribed or/ and working directly with the lobbies.
They work for the pharma lobby, for the financial lobbies, for the agricultural lobbies, for the military industry lobbies.
They don't need the population for anything. We're just trouble for them.
Posted by Robin123 (Member # 9197) on :
What happens in one state can become a precedent for others -
AB499 is sitting on CA Gov Brown's desk waiting for his signature. If he signs it, this means that schools can vaccinate boys and girls with the Gardasil vaccine for HPV.
The vaccine isn't specifically mentioned in the bill, but since the bill allows for minors to be medically treated for health conditions at school WITHOUT ANY PARENTAL KNOWLEDGE OR CONSENT, this is what will start to happen.
There have been 22,000 adverse reactions reported, including Guillain Barre paralysis, and 89 deaths. Kids are not old enough to do the research it takes to make choices like this.
If any of you would like to help us in CA, you can call the governor's line at 855-468-2796, or email at www.gov.ca.gov.
I am currently communicating with my two state senators, who both voted for this bill.
Posted by Robin123 (Member # 9197) on :
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Brussels: [QB] We arrived to the point where the governments in most of the Western world are working for certain groups of people, who own the economy and the finances.
The governments are corrupt, bribed or/ and working directly with the lobbies.
They work for the pharma lobby, for the financial lobbies, for the agricultural lobbies, for the military industry lobbies.
They don't need the population for anything. We're just trouble for them.
Isn't it nice that Occupy Fill-In-The-Blank place has started!! Wow - everyone working together to correct the injustices. You can read what's happening around the country and world at www.occupytogether.org. Posted by Brussels (Member # 13480) on :
Make more trouble and call the senators or whoever you think are working closely with the lobbies (or ARE the lobbyists themselves!).
They won't do anything if they are paid to do what they do. It's their job to push for crapy things like that, but at least, they will know there are people who aren't so 'sheep'.
I understand why some people decide to homeschool. No an option to everyone though, but after controling our kids minds, they will try to control the our kids health? What comes next?
If you read what the US army does with military personel going to conflict areas, you really wonder...
I do believe they test loads of pathogens in these mystery vaccines they give to the poor military personel, because the diseases these people take after, are so devastating that even, I think that there is more than simple 'normal pathogens' inside.
They have no idea to what they are being vaccinated, for what I read.
Knowing that borrelia strain that makes us sick has probably been engeneered and probably escaped from a lab, it is really scary.
If they do experiments with the military personel in mass scale, who can garantee they wont' do it in the children??
Posted by Brussels (Member # 13480) on :
It's amazing that in Wikipedia, they say vaccines are not the cause of GulfWar Syndrome, but they provide no proof. Most articles point clearly to a relation between anthrax vaccine and Gulf War Syndrome!
the article in wikipedia even said the Iraqs bombed the troops with some biological warfare! I wonder when, if the Americans never found any weapons of mass destruction!!!
Fortunately a suffering war veteran is re-writing the article for Wikipedia!
This is worse than passing a law saying that children over 12 can decide on their own if they want to smoke cigarettes or drink alcohol.
This is yet another example of how the big corporations run the government. I wonder how much money the governor made off of this one. Someone needs to "Occupy" outside his house (i.e. protest).
Posted by Robin123 (Member # 9197) on :
Thx, jlp and James, for noticing - good idea, James - there should be an occupation of Brown's home AND the legislature!
Will be watching for protest organizing - it's going to happen - so many people contacted the governor's office asking him not to sign something so potentially injurious. They had a special line for it and I heard comments were running very negative.
Y'all better be watching out for your states, since CA has just set a precedent, one that I hope will be overturned here in some way -
Posted by jlp38 (Member # 27221) on :
Disgusting is the right word. Makes me wanna cry. Hopefully parents will educate their kids to refuse if that is their desire. I wonder how many people will pull their kids out of school over this. I know if we lived there we'd be moving or homeschooling, although my kids have been told they are to kick and scream or do whatever they have to do to get away from someone who would try to give them a shot. It felt a little like paranoia when we first tought them that, but I guess it was just reality. How can parents be responsible for their children if they can't even make basic health decisions for them? And you know this is just the first step. Adults will be next. I guess I better end this before I get all political.
Posted by Lymetoo (Member # 743) on :
That is horrible!! Hope it can be overturned. Posted by James1979 (Member # 31926) on :
Here's how I imagine it happening in school: Teacher: "Alright kids! Everyone line up for the vaccine shot. Come on, now. Everybody get in line. Let's go!"
Then all of the kids get in line. It's expected by the administrators that the kids who get in line are those that are voluntarily agreeing (without their parents consent) to get the shot. Any kids who don't want the shot are expected to be forcefully unwilling, and to not get in line like the other 95% of the kids.
This will be very difficult for the kids to do, because of peer pressure.
Basically the parents will have to teach the kids to "never get in line for a vaccine shot! You must be forceful!" Either way, this will be very difficult for the kids. I'm sure that the kids getting the shots will tease the kids who don't get it.
Posted by Lymetoo (Member # 743) on :
You're right, James. Except I don't think they would necessarily get teased for not doing it. What age are we talking about here? (Calif)
Posted by KrystalKlear (Member # 34042) on :
This is completely unbelievable!!!!
I agree with James. The kids will just line up, and some won't know what's happening because they're not paying attention. Others will know what's happening but be too intimidated to speak out (that would be MY son).
The kids will not be told much details and they will NOT be told that they CAN opt out.
In our school district, middle school kids can't even take an ibuprofen in school without their parents' permission (giving a note to the school).
This is outrageous and I am sick to my stomache.
Posted by James1979 (Member # 31926) on :
quote:Originally posted by Lymetoo: You're right, James. Except I don't think they would necessarily get teased for not doing it. What age are we talking about here? (Calif)
Dang, girl! What kind of school did you go to? Catholic?!
I went to schoo' in the ghetto, shoot. Kids would get teased over anything! I could give examples of how the kids were insulting each other... but I'm sure I'd get chastised.
I agree that it's probably different in every school, but seriously, you must be in a good neighborhood if "abuse" isn't the norm.
Posted by jlp38 (Member # 27221) on :
It gets to be a lot for kids to remember. Ok so when I'm offered a shot I'm to decline, screaming and kicking if i have to. But when I'm offered chemical hand sanitizer or aspartame or high fructose corn syrup, I'm to decline, but I don't have to kick and scream over those because they just have a "little" poison and if the teacher makes me do it, I can go ahead and just come home and tell mommy afterwards. It's a lot for a 5 year old to get. Hopefully it won't come to that.
Posted by jlp38 (Member # 27221) on :
quote:Originally posted by James1979: I went to schoo' in the ghetto, shoot. Kids would get teased over anything! I could give examples of how the kids were insulting each other... but I'm sure I'd get chastised.
It's a good thong those kids don't know you're doing kegels. Talk about the teasing!
Posted by James1979 (Member # 31926) on :
quote:Originally posted by jlp38: It gets to be a lot for kids to remember. Ok so when I'm offered a shot I'm to decline, screaming and kicking if i have to. But when I'm offered chemical hand sanitizer or aspartame or high fructose corn syrup, I'm to decline, but I don't have to kick and scream over those because they just have a "little" poison and if the teacher makes me do it, I can go ahead and just come home and tell mommy afterwards. It's a lot for a 5 year old to get. Hopefully it won't come to that.
jlp - you sound like a very well-informed mom. I'm surprised you know and are concerned even about the hand sanitizers. Were you referring to "Triclosan" in particular? I almost wanted to start a thread about triclosan, telling people not to fall for the "anti-bacterial" bit.
But you know what, most people here don't listen to me anyway. They think that everything I'm writing is a joke. Can you believe it? Like one time I was telling about the importance of squatting-style toilets, and they thought I was joking! Whatever.
When I was a kid, my mom gave me gummy worms, white spaghetti, white rice, margarine, Mountain Dew, and Pepto Bismol. Oh yeah, and Crisco. Can't forget the Crisco.
Posted by James1979 (Member # 31926) on :
quote:Originally posted by jlp38: It's a good thong those kids don't know you're doing kegels. Talk about the teasing!
LOL! Hey, there are just some things you don't talk about, okay?
BTW, did your husband ever end up changing his mind about the ass exercises? Did he say that he might start recommending them to his patients?
Posted by James1979 (Member # 31926) on :
Question: Wasn't it recently revealed that Merck paid Rick Perry to try to poison all the Texan girls with Gardasil? (I'm asking, because I don't follow the news closely).
IF that was the case, then isn't it shameful for the CA governor to be doing the exact same thing?
Also, isn't Perry getting a bunch of negative publicity for trying to push Gardasil? Then why would it be allowed in CA?? It just seems awfully strange to me.
Posted by Lymetoo (Member # 743) on :
quote:Originally posted by James1979:
Dang, girl! What kind of school did you go to? Catholic?!
- Nope. But I haven't been in a classroom in 17 yrs... so there ya go.
My kids (classroom) weren't allowed to bully or tease. And they minded me. (well, sorta) That was back in the dark ages.
I taught elementary. All bets are off with middle school and high school!!!!!!
I grew up in Houston and taught in San Antonio and another smaller city. No major problems in those schools.
Posted by Lymetoo (Member # 743) on :
So what age are they targeting for the shots?
Posted by jlp38 (Member # 27221) on :
Perry did it as an executive order, bypassing his congress. They reversed it though. He's getting a lot of negative publicity in the circles I hang in. But I think a lot of people like him.
As to hand sanitizer, I havent done a ton of research on triclosan. I just know introducing a lot of chemicals into our environment is not good. I don't really need the research. It's a principle. I can get the research if I want it. I prefer the thyme based hand sanitizer over chemical, but honestly, I'd rather they not use that either. All bacteria is not bad and I don't think it's a good idea to kill it all.
And no, still not butt workouts in our office. Posted by tricia386 (Member # 29623) on :
I hate this vaccine it ruined my life
Posted by scorpiogirl (Member # 31907) on :
But luckily I have my kids trained well. They have not had a vaccine in YEARS so they know no one is to touch them! I guess it's time to consider moving!
Posted by scorpiogirl (Member # 31907) on :
quote:Originally posted by Lymetoo: So what age are they targeting for the shots?
Looks like 12 and up. That's awfully young!
Posted by jlp38 (Member # 27221) on :
quote:Originally posted by tricia386: I hate this vaccine it ruined my life
I'm so sorry for you that no one spoke and told you of the dangers. You might want to look into a lawsuit. There is a vaccine injury compensation fund. The federal govt requires vaccine manufacturers to maintain this fund because there are so many injuries. I don't know what it takes to qualify, but it might be worth it if it paid your medical bills.
I'll never know but it has occurred to me that vaccines are what messed up my life too. I haven't had a vaccine since I was a child (and that was a long time ago, I just turned 40) but I wonder if my immune system hadn't been destroyed by vaccines all those years ago, would I have been able to fight Lyme? I think maybe so.
Posted by Robin123 (Member # 9197) on :
It's for age 12 and older.
I called today and it looks like there was no statement from the governor on the site about why he signed AB499 into law. Sometimes governors make a statement if they're vetoing something.
Well, the ACLU was not available today, but we can find out this week who's going to start the protest action on this one.
In the meantime, I think we oughta make some noise about it, even as individuals.
We can fax/email/write letters by going to www.gov.ca.gov, click on contact.
The governor's number is (toll free) 855-468-2796. Besides telling them that you're opposed to this for reasons of safety and lack of parental/family information and consent, if you don't live in California, you can add that you're also concerned about precedence, that this could spread to other states.
By the way, I found out that lack of parental knowledge/consent happened earlier than this bill - not sure when, but still, wrong, wrong, wrong - families are being made to bear the burden should something go wrong and vaccine manufacturers are not liable. What a convenient law.
I'd love to see the state of CA sued for the legislature and governor having passed this, should there be a wrongful death or serious consequence, like Guillain Barre.
Just so you all know, SANEvax found recombinant DNA in the vaccines - meaning these have been genetically engineered. As far as I'm concerned, NOT SAFE!
Posted by James1979 (Member # 31926) on :
Quote: "Brown thinks that a sixth grader can understand the risks and benefits of receiving vaccines such as Gardasil, Cervarix, and Hepatitis B. In grave irony, Sunday he also signed into law a ban on teens using tanning booths. Apparently Brown thinks a child can decipher the medical jargon in a twenty-seven page product insert, including statistical details from placebo controlled trials, but doesn't think teens can make decisions about whether or not they will get a sunburn in a tanning bed."
Brown is so bought. He should just wear a baseball cap that says "Merck" on it.
Posted by jlp38 (Member # 27221) on :
quote:Originally posted by James1979: [ Brown is so bought. He should just wear a baseball cap that says "Merck" on it. [/QB]
Yes I'm sure he is. It also appears to me that he simply thinks he knows better than parents. He doesn't really think 6th graders can make decisions like this. But he doesn't think parents can either. So he'll make the decision for them. It is SOOOOOO wrong and SOOOOOO unconstitutional. It's hard to believe our country has come to this. James, have you read Atlas Shrugged? I just finally read it. We really are there and we don't even realize it.
Posted by James1979 (Member # 31926) on :
jlp - no, I haven't even heard of Atlas Shrugged. I just looked it up on Amazon. It has a TON of reviews.
So basically the story is that it was 1950's fiction about a horribly corrupt government, and now 50 years later it ends up to be a true story?
Posted by James1979 (Member # 31926) on :
Posted by jlp38 (Member # 27221) on :
Love the picture! Has he admitted or anyone confirmed that he's got merck lobbyists? Of course they are there, but it usully takes awhile for people to catch on.
Well, I thought everybody but me had read that book. It's a great read. And yes, you've pretty much got the main point. It's about a society where people quit producing and basically start looting - they just let the govt think for them. Of course revolution follows. The book has become popular again the last few years because of the way the economy is going.
Posted by jlp38 (Member # 27221) on :
Ok hang on, I thought brown was a white dude? Am I confused? Still a hilarious picture.
Posted by James1979 (Member # 31926) on :
quote:Originally posted by jlp38: Ok hang on, I thought brown was a white dude? Am I confused? Still a hilarious picture.
Oh crap. Did I get the wrong guy? I don't have a TV and I never watch the news, so I don't know how these guys look like. I just searched Google Images for "CA mayor brown".
Posted by jlp38 (Member # 27221) on :
I think he's governor, not mayor. Lol. And don't feel bad, I had look up his pic too to make sure.
Posted by James1979 (Member # 31926) on :
Well, if the guy in my picture is a mayor somewhere, he's probably "bought" too! Posted by scorpiogirl (Member # 31907) on :
LOL @ James! Good gawd James, I can always count on you to make me laugh hysterically!
Medi Rub foot Massager - $279 Anodyne Machine - $1,300
Jame's blunder - PRICELESS!!
For a second I thought perhaps Gov Brown had spent a little too much time in the tanning booth himself. Hahahahaa!!!!!!!
Posted by Robin123 (Member # 9197) on :
James, James, James!!! You have displayed a pic of ex-SF mayor Willie Brown, and he is working hard on da mayor's race!!
It's Governor JERRY Brown who thinks any kid can handle deciding whether to handle a vaccine without telling their parents!
No, I didn't know that he banned teens from making a decision about whether they can tan safely. Good find there - that juxtaposition oughta be turned into a protest sign -
So, I invite you to keep the Merck hat here and put it on the right Brown!!
Posted by James1979 (Member # 31926) on :
Posted by scorpiogirl (Member # 31907) on :
What he too?? Sigh...
Posted by Robin123 (Member # 9197) on :
You're getting closer, James! This is Gov Brown's predecessor. Now, Jerry Brown's a little older than this - can you age him some?
Posted by James1979 (Member # 31926) on :
Posted by tricia386 (Member # 29623) on :
JLP i did look into a lawsuit.
Bc I didnt have a long enough hospital stay I could not sue.
Posted by jlp38 (Member # 27221) on :
Tricia what a rotten deal you got!
James, if you put that on FB or YouTube it would go viral!
Posted by jlp38 (Member # 27221) on :
Although he's holding a gun and you can't have guns in Cali anymore either. Just another thing the founding fathers saw fit to put in the constitution but which this guy is ignoring.
Posted by James1979 (Member # 31926) on :
You can't have guns in CA?! Since when?! I can't believe it.
Posted by jlp38 (Member # 27221) on :
James, maybe if you put a hypodermic needle in his hand instead of the gun, that would work, and then we could send it viral...
James found a good CA news article - says Merck paid $39,000 to state legislators. I notice that one of mine voted for it even though he's not on the list. Wonder how much they "donated" to Gov Brown.
Boy oh boy, or rather, girl oh girl, my on-the-street research yesterday: Planned Parenthood reps were out in force downtown soliciting funds. They are one of the organizations, among many, who supported this bill.
I asked the young women if they knew about the bill. One did not, one was in favor of Gardasil, and one had had the shot at age 9. None knew about the reported 22,000 side effect cases nor the 89 deaths.
My take on this - don't let up, here or anywhere. This is a very dangerous precedent. For both girls and boys at school.
Gosh, my school daze were simple compared to this - we just went to school!
Posted by James1979 (Member # 31926) on :
Posted by Robin123 (Member # 9197) on :
Bravo, James - are you a computer graphic artist? Now, this is good, and you got the right guy!
Posted by James1979 (Member # 31926) on :
quote:Originally posted by Robin123: Bravo, James - are you a computer graphic artist? Now, this is good, and you got the right guy!
Oh my goodness. Who is this girl? Did you just ask me if I'm an artist? How many months have I been with you here on Lymenet, and you do not yet know that I am a great artist?
Where have you been all of these weeks when I have been sharing my artwork with all of the Lymenet members? Surely you saw my famous "Man and Wife" painting, which was so widely acclaimed?
I should make a post some day with links to all of my famous artwork. That way everybody will be able to enjoy my art. Then we could make it a sticky, and men and women from all over the world will join Lymenet to partake in the joy.
Posted by payne (Member # 26248) on :
doing the confused tango..?
Posted by Robin123 (Member # 9197) on :
James, I am sooooo looking forward to your museum collection coming this way, particularly your "Man and Lyme" abstract, and your "Lyme and Wife" drawings -
Posted by Lymetoo (Member # 743) on :
The PUSH is on again!! Deaths from this vaccine don't matter!! Now let's give it to all the boys too!!!
Amazing, isn't it? Watch out for this, and be prepared to speak out on it. I have started doing so in SF and it's going ok so far - we'll see - but very good response, lots of concern -
Check out www.sanevax.org and www.truthaboutgardasil.org, also can do a search on facebook for it. Two brothers are making a doc in HI since their sister got affected by it - called "One More Girl" - supposed to be out in early 2012.
I was looking at the symptoms it causes, and a lot of them seem similar to those caused by Lyme, what, indicating a similar auto-immune response, I guess -
amazing that a whole new group has to go through this, and they don't even have treatment for it - so again, be prepared to warn your community about it if needed -
Posted by Robin123 (Member # 9197) on :
I spoke with someone in the school district yesterday - they will not be giving the vaccine here because, A, it is expensive, and B, because they feel it is a matter for primary care doctors to handle and not the school district.
I suggest any Californian feel free to contact your school district to ask them the same question, since the state has now legalized giving the vaccines at school.
The vaccine can potentially disable or kill any child, as well as worsen any Lyme infection and maybe others.
Posted by Lymetoo (Member # 743) on :
quote:Originally posted by Robin123: I spoke with someone in the school district yesterday - they will not be giving the vaccine here because, A, it is expensive, and B, because they feel it is a matter for primary care doctors to handle and not the school district.
Well D-U-H ... They probably had to have high level meetings to figure that one out!!!!
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