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Posted by GiGi (Member # 259) on :
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5JKS8xBqYI&feature=relmfu
 
Posted by ktkdommer (Member # 29020) on :
 
Thanks!
 
Posted by RZR (Member # 20953) on :
 
Guess that explains why I have been battling babesia for 15 months! I can't get rid of the parasites.
 
Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
 
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Thanks, GiGi.

I appreciate all the links you've shared lately, especially as you go through this tender time.

You, take care, okay?
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Posted by karenl (Member # 17753) on :
 
Thanks Gigi, great information.
Where can we buy liposomal artemisin?
 
Posted by canefan17 (Member # 22149) on :
 
I also believe I will put my remaining, nagging Bartonella dormant once I treat parasites and remove metals.

I don't believe one can ever kill ALL the Bartonella, or Boreelia, or Babesia, or Parastes, etc etc.

But you can find a balance in the body and live asymptomatically with them.

[Big Grin]
 
Posted by GiGi (Member # 259) on :
 
Karenl, You can make liposomal remedies yourself. Check BetterHealthGuy.com - I think he has an article describing how. Anything, the meds, you make liposomal is getting to the place in the body where it is needed. The cocktail in one pot, all together, prepared for a day or two -is so much easier. Less capsules to swallow.

Pull up a Dr K cocktail recipe - here is one - adjust it to your own likes -
http://www.klinghardtacademy.com/images/stories/powerpoints/klinghardt%20lyme%20cocktail%202010.pdf

Canefan, nothing happens until you clarify KPU, treat parasites and start detoxing metals effectively. The smaller fry comes after that. Treat the bacteria after taking care of the parasites. Learn to test yourself. Life is so much easier when you know what needs to be next.

Find someone to help you learn. There are people everywhere who do energetic testing the right way.
I have taught several people and they are very happy. And don't forget that symptoms caused by neurotoxins are all alike - I wouldn't be able to tell the difference between bartonella and borrelia, or parasites, or metals. Don't let symptoms fool you. Neurotoxins are neurotoxins causing similar problems. Maybe babesia with nightsweats and air hunger stand out. If you learn to test, you will know what takes priority for treatment at the moment. Or you do as Dr. K. does - treat most together with the cocktail.

Please, don't continue unless you check for KPU. What happened to you today should be a lesson for you. You will be miles ahead if you address KPU if you test positive for it. I definitely think you are a candidate for that. You are going in circles if you have it and don't cover for it.

Take care.

[ 11-04-2011, 09:49 PM: Message edited by: Lymetoo ]
 
Posted by canefan17 (Member # 22149) on :
 
I agree. But cat scratch marks are hard to confuse.

My only problem with KPU (because I started The Core 2 months ago) is that the Zinc seems to exacerbate joint pain for me.

Scott (better health guy) talks about MMP-9 markers being elevated and Zinc making it worse. I think most of us here lean towards auto-immune conditions, no?

So how are these people treating KPU, using Zinc, with no issues?
 
Posted by nonna05 (Member # 33557) on :
 
My MMP-9 markers were up a year ago...then treated for pneumonia with 4-5 different abx's. for about 3 month's

..Then doc took blood for same test and my maker was in mid 200. So he couldn't figure out why marker was better, and I wasn't

. I still tested with no energy on machine and my cough wasn't real bad..felt like Mac truck hit me ,still, just was breathing better.

. Well later on it dawns on me that of course things looked better on paper for a while cause I'd just gone through a ton of treatment.. It included 2-3 silver Iv's and 3 mega doses Vit c, along with abx's ,drops and all the rest.

So to him I should be better. To me I just finished all the treatment stuff and things were still better for SHORT time and only direct symptoms..

Question, does it work like that????MMP-9 and what to do about babesia

Now he thinks meds were in way of muscle testing. But that had never been a problem before.... Plus it wasn't very much pain relief in first place. Little more since steroid shots last year cause I can't take them any more. Non of us should.
 
Posted by canefan17 (Member # 22149) on :
 
Antibiotics suppress immune function and thus inflammation. So no surprise there if the MMP-9 markers decreased while on abxs.
 
Posted by sparkle7 (Member # 10397) on :
 
Thanks for the info, GiGi.

I like the idea of simplified treatment which is what Dr. K was suggesting. I'm going to go back & listen to the rest of the interview later.

I've seen a few people do poorly with long courses of abx. I don't think that's the answer. Not enough is known about how all these pathogens interact in the body. At least, Dr. K. is considering all of this.

I'm not one for being an extremist but his concepts do make sense.
 
Posted by sparkle7 (Member # 10397) on :
 
This is a really good interview. Very worth listening to. It sort of distills all the info he's gathered about Lyme treatment into about an hour or so. I think I'm going to go back & take some notes.

I'm really glad he's so open with his info & ideas. I don't think I'd be able to go to see him as a physician but I'm glad he puts all this info out there for people to learn from.

None of these famous MDs are Gods & can cure everyone but I like where he goes with his thinking about things Lyme related.
 
Posted by MattH (Member # 30846) on :
 
I listened to the interview with Dr K. So who is doing the Oregon Root and Niacinamide? Is it working?

What about the liposomal Vitamin C? I just got my machine and will create some liposomal Vitamin C this weekend.

All the Best, MattH
 
Posted by MichaelTampa (Member # 24868) on :
 
I used very high doses of niacinamide for a while. I am curious why you ask and what you are hearing it is good for. I had heard it was a good antibacterial. I energy tested good for it, so I took it, but never knew what it was really be doing for me?

What is Oregon Root for?
 
Posted by nefferdun (Member # 20157) on :
 
That was very interesting but I was really interested to know that niacinamide kills spirrochetes.

I had my type one diabetic son take high doses of niacinamide to stall his beta cell destruction. He was diagnosed a year ago and is still not insulin dependent or taking any drugs.

Niacinamide also kills yeast. When I took it I got bad headaches and maybe it was a herx. I will try it again.
 
Posted by glm1111 (Member # 16556) on :
 
I have no more bart or babs symptoms since treating for parasites. Getting rid of parasites has been so KEY to my recovery. Dr. K is so on the money about this.

Gael
 


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