I have been on I.v. Antibiotics for years. I can't take enough antibiotics all at once to get well enough to get off I.v. Antibiotics for good (liver enzymes start rising and then I have to go off everything until they come back down). I take lots of supplements, do coffee enemas, etc. now I am buying a rife machine.
I know you're ideally supposed to go off antibiotics before rifing. Has anybody had experience slowly going off antibiotics while beginning rifing? Or alternating between rifing and antibiotics?
(I do lots of things for my liver, castor oil packs, etc., so those types of things are not the answer)
Thanks, Sam
Posted by pamoisondelune (Member # 11846) on :
One reason not to combine rife and abx is that abx are said to send the spirochetes into cyst form, where rife can't get them; rife doesn't affect the cysts.
Another reason not to combine rife with abx has to do with herxes and reactions. Some people have heavy herx reactions to either treatment, so combining them could be even worse, and you wouldn't be able to analyze which caused what.
One reason FOR combining abx with rife would be that you could hit all the bugs at once, while on drugs for only one pathogen. You could keep the coinfections down while on antibiotics for lyme.
It seems natural to taper off slowly and combine treatments at first, if you aren't sure if the rife machine really works. Then if you find that it really does work, you'll lose interest in abx.
It may take a while to find the right frequencies! All my staple frequencies that i use now i got from the rife thread here on Lymenet. My main lyme babs and bart frequencies aren't in the manual.
PollyPolygonum
Posted by Sam from CA (Member # 28722) on :
PollyPolygonum, I know that rifing and antibiotics are a bad combination in the sense that the antibiotics turn on a defense mechanism and the rife really can't get at the spirochetes. However, my life can be pretty unbearable without them. I was just thinking that I could possibly rotate the therapies until I got he spirochete load down low enough to make it a little more tolerable. Sam
Posted by pamoisondelune (Member # 11846) on :
What people say is, "The first 6 months are hell". That refers to treating exclusively with a rife machine. It means that a person with a heavy load is going to have a lot of unpleasant herxes to get through.
"Brussels" on this forum would say that if you do enough detox, you won't suffer at all. A lot of people emphasize detox.
Polly Polygonum
Posted by faithful777 (Member # 22872) on :
What detox do you recommend?
Posted by Lauralyme (Member # 15021) on :
I would say colonics and FIR sauna sessions
Posted by cottonbrain (Member # 13769) on :
Does anyone have any new info on rifing while taking antibiotics?
I am doing so and so far I am having some good herxing, not too strong, bearable, "just right."
Posted by jarjar (Member # 8847) on :
For detox I use chlorella, liquid clay bentonite, activated charcoal, and FIR sauna.
It is VERY important to help your body detox from all the die off with a good rife machine.
Also some of the better machines will have auto channels to help you detox from die off of toxins and parasites.
I will say when I got off abx I started developing c-diff symptoms and I was able to knock it out with 2 freq. on my gb4000.
Posted by MannaMe (Member # 33330) on :
my husband is rifing while on antibiotics. He's been doing that for a year with no problems.
He rifes for babesia every day, lyme only occasionally. He also rifes for other things too.
Posted by D Bergy (Member # 9984) on :
Remember that only Lyme has the ability to convert to a cyst form. That leaves all the coinfections that you can still target with frequency treatments.
Sometimes you have to hit these infections with everything you can to get rid of them.
Good luck
Dan
Posted by RZR (Member # 20953) on :
I am treating with rife and abx.
I plan to get off abx ASAP, but not until babs duncani is gone.
I take Tindamax (pulse) to prevent lyme cyst form. Hopefully, that will help.