[ 04-30-2012, 12:50 AM: Message edited by: Lymedin2010 ]
Posted by YinYang (Member # 36358) on :
Others can chime in on the article, however, I went through 5 weeks of IV vitamin C and didn't exactly feel great through the process. I stopped, because of the expense, ( i also stopped my ABX at approx the sane time) and felt great.
So, I'm certainly no expert, but the thought (frim my llmd) as to why I was feeling better when I stopped everything was because I stopped the die off.
I'm holding steady, starting ABX again today. I truly feel that the VC boosted my immune system and helped me efficiently fight off some of the Lyme & co.
Just my opinion & experience.
Posted by Lymedin2010 (Member # 34322) on :
Years ago I tried the salt/Vitamin C protocol and I felt worse while doing it and in my opinion my worseing had nothing to do with a herx or parasite dieoff. But instead my worseing weas due to drinking too much water and ingesting too much salt.
But I have found that drinking much less water than I used to at certain times of the day and keeping my urinary sugar and urinary salt from crashing to be extremely helpful.
I truly believe that the bad feeling that some people get from drinking alot of fluids (whether it be from pure water, salt/Vitamin C, juices, herbal teas, etc.) are not always due to a herx reaction or a cleansing action but rather this bad feeling may just be the side effects that can potentially occur from consuming too many fluids.
And if you are interested about this, in the video down bellow, Matt Stone discusses the possible side effects of drinking too much water/fluids. In my case, his comments about drinking too many fluids have been spot on.
Also, in the past I had several IV's of Vitamin C that ranged from 25 grams to 100 grams and as far as I could tell it didn't help me at all..... not one bit.
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Posted by Catgirl (Member # 31149) on :
I agree with emla on drinking too many fluids. I feel better drinking less. However, the vitamin C makes me feel better. My hubby makes liposmal C for us (good stuff). I can feel it within minutes after taking it. Now he's starting to get interested in the salt/C protocol.
Posted by steven (Member # 13101) on :
500 mg vit c is one the few things helping me at least a bit
Posted by glm1111 (Member # 16556) on :
Too much vitamin C can be acidic, but when taking it with salt in equal amounts which is alkaline it creates a balance.
If you urinate the same amount of liquid you are drinking, then it shouldn't be a problem. That's why when you are a patient in the hospital, they measure your I & O. (intake and output) Again, it's about balance.
The salt/c protocol has been invaluable for me, and according to the info on lymestrategies, the salt kills bb as well as the cyst form. Remember, salt is a natural bacteriocide and has been used for centuries as such.
Gael
Posted by Lymetoo (Member # 743) on :
It "eats" my stomach and irritates my bladder. I have to avoid it almost completely.
Posted by Lymedin2010 (Member # 34322) on :
Can anyone find a SINGLE Salt/C study directly on BB in vitro?
A SINGLE ONE?
If we can't find it, why the hell not? �Surely Dr Eva Sapi must have considered doing such studies. �Somebody must have done this outside of big pharma and the studies they subsidize?
[ 04-30-2012, 04:56 PM: Message edited by: Lymedin2010 ]
Posted by glm1111 (Member # 16556) on :
Lymedin,
Why don't you pose this question to Marc Fett at the lymestrategies forum. He has done a lot of work on the effacy of salt/c, so perhaps he can furnish a study for you.
I e-mailed Dr Sapi a while back as to why there was not more discussion on the Filarial Worms she has been finding in over 40% of the ticks. Her reply was that the study had to be published before any further discussion could take place. Never asked her if she had any studies on salt/c.
It's not always black and white when trying to find "cures "for a devasting disease. Sometimes we just have to look at our peers who have gone before us and got well on the protocol.
There are also testamonials on the lymestrategies site from the pioneers who got rid of their Lyme from salt/c.
Sometimes as the cliche goes "The Proof Is In The Pudding" Why don't you read the info on www.lymephotos.com
Gael
Posted by glm1111 (Member # 16556) on :
TuTu,
Did you take the sodium chloride tablets or capsules? When you put a small amount of salt and Esther c into a large glass of water, it makes a mild solution and should not burn.
I have gotten abdominal and bladder burning at times from salt/c and always realized it was a herx when I saw the parasites exiting. Drinking enough water also helps alleviate this.
Gael
Posted by Catgirl (Member # 31149) on :
I cant take Ester C (gives me yeast).
Posted by Lymedin2010 (Member # 34322) on :
I will ask Marc at lymestrategies.
Those pictures on lymephotos are weird and the ones of Babesia do not look like Babesia. The only explanation would be if they were able to use a magnification that we typically do not see some of those specimens in.
Posted by Lymetoo (Member # 743) on :
quote:Originally posted by glm1111: TuTu,
Did you take the sodium chloride tablets or capsules? When you put a small amount of salt and Esther c into a large glass of water, it makes a mild solution and should not burn.
- Neither. I've never tried it. I can't ingest too much salt due to issues with my heart. Plus, I was well before the Salt/C even came around.
I've just known for about 20 yrs that I can't tolerate vit C .. mostly due to my IC back then, now my sensitive stomach too.
Posted by glm1111 (Member # 16556) on :
Lyemdin,
EVERYTHING pictured on lymephotos is EXACTLY what poured out of me into the toilet after 6 mos of antiparasitic herbs and then salt/c. As hard as it may be to believe, they were as large as they look in the pictures.
Some of them measured 8" in length. I also had large red eggs come out the size in the pictures. Believe me I was shocked.
I think the person who set up the site just labeled the specimens randomly as they needed for decription.
Gael
Posted by Lymedin2010 (Member # 34322) on :
OK.
Some more questions for you to get a clearer picture.
1) What ABX or combos were you on before you did anti parasitic and which did not get you well?
2) Did you do any antiparasitic with ABX, if so which ABX did you take it with? I am on Amoxi, Zithro, & Flagyl. �Do you thnk it is ok to add the Kroeger Herb Wormwood Combo and is this a good antiparasitic?
3) Did you do 6 mo of anti and then add the salt c, or was there some overlap?
4) How long until you saw improvements? �Let's say 30-40% improvement in symptoms?
Posted by Lymetoo (Member # 743) on :
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Posted by sickmate (Member # 31502) on :
Does anyone have a link to a "how to do salt/c "?
Posted by Catgirl (Member # 31149) on :
Lymedin2010, did you ask your pharamcist? They are usually good at answering if it's okay with your specific meds. I'm on my way to ask them that right now.