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Posted by katrinab (Member # 30330) on :
 
My doc gave me naturthyroid 32 mcg to take in am because I had low temps around 97.2-97.7 in mornings and I had symptoms of hypo. I have been taking the thyroid for two weeks now and taking my temps, and they seem to have gone lower. They are consistently 97.1-97.2 in mornings. Does anyone know what could be going on?
 
Posted by Marnie (Member # 773) on :
 
The liver has to convert T4 to T3.

Go here for an explanation:

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/reverse-t3/

P.S. I "Googled" this:

T3 thyroid body temperature

To find the link.
 
Posted by Sammi (Member # 110) on :
 
It could just be that you need a higher dose. Thyroid meds need to be increased slowly, because it takes time for your body to adjust.

Two weeks of taking the med is not very long. Did you have thyroid blood work done prior to starting it?
 
Posted by katrinab (Member # 30330) on :
 
Yea I had reverse t3 levels. Very high. I guess this could be wilsons syndrome. Has anyone had luck with treating this with cytomel? How many times does it take to treat it?
 
Posted by whitmore (Member # 28721) on :
 
You could have low cortisol and the thyroid medication is 'pooling'.

The stopthethyroidmadness website listed above has a lot of information on this.

The solution is to take cortef, if it turns out that you have low cortisol.
 
Posted by dbpei (Member # 33574) on :
 
I went to a holistic gyn to determine whether I might have hypo-thyroidism. I have multiple symptoms including very low a.m. body temp, averaging 95 degrees. My thyroid tests were normal and my MD says I do not have hypothryroidism despite multiple symptoms.

I wonder if Lyme itself is responsible for causing many of these symptoms (cold hands and feet, dry skin, no libido, dry hair, lack of perspiration, etc.)

Tests did show that my adrenal reserves and DHEA were low. Awaiting my testosterone levels and will start bio-identical hormones if they will help.
 
Posted by Sammi (Member # 110) on :
 
dpei, did you have the Free T3 and Free T4 tested?

Did you have your thyroid antibodies tested? If they are positive, it indicates Hashimoto's Thyroiditis which is an auto-immune disorder. Some people who have Hashimoto's have other results in the normal range, but treatment is warranted. This happened to me. Remember, there is a lot of room to work in the "normal" range especially when symptoms are present.

I had many hypo symptoms for years. I was told for years that my results were normal. Finally, a doctor ran the antibody tests. The one indicating Hashimoto's had a normal range of something like 0-34. My result was over 2000! I finally got treated.

For me, I feel best when my Free T's are in the upper 1/3 of the range. Too many doctors rely only on TSH results. A few years ago, I finally found a doctor who goes by how I feel and how the Free T results are.

If your adrenal function is off, it can affect thyroid function. Is important to have both evaluated properly.
 
Posted by dbpei (Member # 33574) on :
 
I know. That is why I went to this holistic gyn, hearing that she listened to symptoms and did not rely totally on test results. My T3 and T4 tested fine.

She did hormonal and adrenal testing through blood and urine. I am not sure if I had thyroid antibodies tested though.

I have a follow up visit with her in a couple of weeks and will ask her about this. Thanks.
 
Posted by sda (Member # 36766) on :
 
Cortef is a steroid, and I don't know for sure as I have heard of one of the better lyme doctors in texas prescribing it to a lyme patient.

The pro side of the isle says that it's ok to take a physialogical dose of steroids, since it is an amount that your' adrenal glands would be making anyway if they were healthy.

The con side of the table says that steroids in any amount will shut off the immune system, so they are bad at any dose.

Also, some of the very best hormone doctors on the net say that the stopthethyroidmadness site is very dangerous and not good at all.

I followed this site for a long time, and now I don't know what to think. The other sites argue that there is a different way to fix the thyroid.

They say it's the correct way to solve the problem, the sttm site says some need their' protocal. I really wonder how many people have an underlying condition that is stopping the regular way from working.

I talked to a guy who used to follow the sttm website for years, and said that the problems were actually fixed and he got off of all thyroid meds after seven years, when he fixed the gut. Take it for what it's worth.

Good sites advocating the use of t3
drlowe.com
holtorfmed.com

Good sites against sttm and t3
definitivemind.com
allthingsmale.com

The sttm site would say that you could be low in iron, cortisol, and a few other things needed for your' the thyroid hormones to get to the cells.

The other sites would argue that something else needed to be done. The other site would argue that

The thing one needs to understand abou the ranges for almost any lab, are that they have made up from people from age range of probably something like people from 18-80.

Most elderly people are not healthy, and alot of Americans in general aren't healthy. Think of all the undiagnosed people with diseases that are skewing the ranges and making them broader.

For FREE t3 and FREE T4, most want to be towards the top of the range to feel their' best. Same goes for almost any hormone, and a really good doctor who understands hormones, understands this.
 
Posted by sda (Member # 36766) on :
 
Oh and iodine. I found out from the lyme side of things, that lyme makes many patients deficient in several things, the hormones, d3, magnesium, and iodine.

Every thyroid hormone your' body makes is made out of iodine. And to boot, the government took all the iodine out of bread back in the 80's I think it was.

Almost everyone is defficient in iodine in America. IMO I think this is why hypothyroid is so undiagnosed and is a big problem but that's just my oppinion.

I've heard of some people getting off of their' thyroid meds who followed the sttm site, just by raising their' iodine levels.

There's a catch though, if you have hashimoto's than iodine can make it worse, but I have also heard of other's who said it got rid of it. Some other variable here to this, or most likely a hundred other variables.

The test for iodine if you want to have it checked is the iodine loading test. Remeber though the reason why people can't take synthroid is because there is an underlying problem where the body turns the t4 into rt3, so the same can happen with iodine.

Sorry, not trying to be a blowhard, just trying to help. Read the sites, form your' own oppinion, and find a doctor who can't be stumped if you bring this stuff up.
 
Posted by In19944 (Member # 34272) on :
 
wait, what? cortef is a steroid? why am i taking it?lol
 
Posted by Marnie (Member # 773) on :
 
http://chriskresser.com/selenium-the-missing-link-for-treating-hypothyroidism

?

You are right...Bb depletes/impacts a LOT of nutrients!!!
 


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