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Posted by lymegal23 (Member # 28573) on :
 
ok so Ive been on antibiotics for a litttle overa year and a half. Started getting yeast symptoms last month. no FEMALE yeast infection or thrush but stomach issues! and general lousy feeling.

I didnt totally do the candida diet. but i made sure i limited my sugars this whole time.

i took alot of good quality probiotic and took oregano , nystatin and olive leaf everyday

I'm getting die off from the Oregano now. waiting to hear back from my LLMD to give me diflucan

im starting on the REAL STRICT candida diet. and ive been eating just chicken, veggies and almonds for the past two days

altho I'm noticing i can't have gaps in between meals like i used to. i used to not usualy eat breakfast (or just have a snack). today I had some veggies this morning and had to go out to an appointemnt. around 1:30 I started getting shaky ....and feeling uneasy.. You know that feeling you get when you havent eaten in a few hours.

I never used to get like this. does the candida diet require you to eat every 2 hours or something or else youll get shaky etc?

I remember when I first started treatment I followed the diet STRICTLY for almost a month and found it gave me the same symptoms . which is why I decided to not follow it all that strict. I just didnt like how i CONSTANTLY had to religiously eat every 2 hours or else id feel shaky and lightheaded

what can i do about this? is this normal? do some peoples bodies just have adverse reactions to the strictness of the candida diet. does my body need the carbs?

I would imagine its not healthy to totally deprive your body of carbohydrates, considering they are a main source of energy in the body.

what should I do. seems all carbs feed yeast...

thanks for the help!!!!

[ 06-07-2012, 03:58 PM: Message edited by: lymegal23 ]
 
Posted by Lymetoo (Member # 743) on :
 
Vegetables contain carbohydrates. Eat plenty of them. It's the starches you should avoid.

I DO find that I have to eat every 2-3 hrs. Mainly because I get HUNGRY!
 
Posted by lymegal23 (Member # 28573) on :
 
how many vegetables do you eat with each meal?

and which ones?

although I just did a search and all the vegetables that supply carbohydrates are the same vegetables that are categorized as starches...and you can't have starches on the candida diet....
 
Posted by lymegal23 (Member # 28573) on :
 
Ok soo...which vegetables can I eat in abundance that will give me alot of carbs

I think my body needs them. because Im getting fatigued and cranky without them

I'm a busy girl. I'm 25 and I work 2 jobs. I have to because I can't afford this disease with one job. having a cup of vegetables on me isnt always something thats readily available when youre working 2 jobs

what are things on the go I can do as well to get my carbs and not cheat on the diet?!?!?
 
Posted by Lymetoo (Member # 743) on :
 
Well, I'm weird. I like green beans and okra. The okra helps my dryness. I must admit I don't eat as many veggies as I should.

I also like to make chicken soup and put plenty of vegetables in that.

Anything green is OK. I also eat zucchini and yellow squash.

(oh.. peas are a little too sugary, as is corn)

ON THE GO is HARD!! Nuts would be the easiest.
 
Posted by lymegal23 (Member # 28573) on :
 
rats..i have a feeling this whole diet is going to bomb

im just so busy,.

if things get bad with this yeast....would IV be an option?

arent IV's expensive?

im just trying to plan everything
 
Posted by canefan17 (Member # 22149) on :
 
Nut butters are great to balance blood sugar and give you more time between meals. Almond Butter is best. Avocados as well.

Look for Vegennaise (a good mayonnaise) that goes well with veggies, chicken, etc and gives you some good fats.

It's hardfor those of us fighting infection to go long hours without eating. Our body needs the fuel to fight the damn buggers and carry out basic detox function.

Eating starchy foods and having yeast flare bad may give you more time between meals but I can guarantee your body is malnourished and in need of those vits/minerals/aminos.


Also look for grass-fed beef and consider using corn tortillas and making tacos. The corn tortillas and blue chips have carbs that are generally ok for us.
 
Posted by Lymetoo (Member # 743) on :
 
IV abx?? Won't help any.

ditto on the blue chips!
 
Posted by desertwind (Member # 25256) on :
 
Try some healthy fats to fill you up. I think someone mentioned Avocados?

I always take an avocado with me to work - along with a few brown rice cakes. I eat alot of nuts and do allow some healthy low glycemic index carbs. As I get bettter and more active I NEED healthy carbs to get through the day. If I don't I crash...

Being on this diet has made me soo hungry I fell off the wagon and indulged in things I should not have for a couple of weeks.

Now I am paying for it. Just do not let yourself get too hungry and you will need to plan your meals and snacks for the the road.

Might want to try some sort of Vegan Protein Drink. Great way to fill up without the carbs or sugar.

It takes alot of thought and planning but in the long run is worth it...Yes, eat something every 2-3 hours to avoid that dip!
 
Posted by Catgirl (Member # 31149) on :
 
Your body needs some carbs. Brown rice or quinoa help. Nuts are great for on the go. So are hard boiled eggs.

I always have celery and hummus on hand. I take celery every where I go. Just put it in a plastic bag in the fridge and right before you go somewhere, put it in your purse.

You can also try Mary's crackers (gluten free). I can tolerate them once in a while.
 
Posted by AuntyLynn (Member # 35938) on :
 
Sorry you're not feeling well Lymegal.

I think you are correct to assume that the "shakiness" is a symptom of low blood sugar! Happens to me too sometimes - but I can grab a glass of milk or orange juice for a "quick fix."

As others here said; Nuts, nut butters (stuffed into that celery?) and hard boiled eggs are all great ideas for "portable food," and any protein, actually, will help you keep your blood sugar "steady" for a longer time. Do you, or can you, eat cheese?
 
Posted by philly78 (Member # 31069) on :
 
Same thing happened to me when I was on the candida diet. At the time, I was told by my doctor to ease into the diet instead. MY body just couldn't handle the drastic change. That did help but I eventually had to eat the carbs anyway.For me this includes quinoa, millet, brown rice, etc.

I work 40+ hours/week in the ER and the restrictions were not helping my energy levels. I also lost way too much weight and was lucky if I weighed 90lbs.

Part of the problem is your body craving the sugar and it is going to take time to adjust. As you're on the diet longer, you will retrain your body to not need the sugar and your symptoms may lessen.

Do you have a blood glucose meter? There were times when on the diet that I felt hypoglycemic but I actually wasn't. Other times though I was.
 
Posted by canefan17 (Member # 22149) on :
 
I also think there's a correlation between Bartonella and hypoglycemia.

So possibly treat Bart
 
Posted by Lymetoo (Member # 743) on :
 
Catgirl.. I like celery and hummus too! But I also like the blue corn chips and hummus. I try not to eat too many of them.

and YES to the Mary's Crackers!! Not too high in carbs.
 
Posted by Catgirl (Member # 31149) on :
 
Thanks Lymetoo, they sound so good (I have to try them)! I can only eat one or two Marys crackers though (or I itch).
 
Posted by sammy (Member # 13952) on :
 
These are some of my favorite portable snacks:
a cup of plain greek yogurt (high in protein + low sugar)
tart green apple slices with peanut butter
handful of nuts (lots of good choices, keep these with you always!)
ezekiel bread with almond butter and cinnamon
 
Posted by Lymetoo (Member # 743) on :
 
sammy... how do you avoid yeast with those??

(esp peanut butter and yogurt)
 
Posted by nefferdun (Member # 20157) on :
 
You need to avoid the carbs that are high on the glycemic index; not all carbs. Brown rice, black rice, quinoa and yams won't raise your blood sugar and aggravate the yeast. Too much protein can cause you to build up a lot of ammonia in your body, especially if you have the CBS mutation.
 
Posted by My2B (Member # 31975) on :
 
I would ask the doctor for a machine to check your bloodsugar. My son has Lyme and Bartonella and he has reactive hypoglycemia. It can be very dangerous when your bloodsugar dips too low. He has to make sure he eats protein with every meal. Then he is fine. When I first started monitoring his bloodsugar it was low enough that he could have experienced seizures, etc. You have to be careful.
 
Posted by kidsgotlyme (Member # 23691) on :
 
I didn't read all of the posts so forgive me if I am repeating someone.

I have been doing basically an Atkin's approach to eating for about two months now for several reasons. The trick to feeling well and not having that shaky feeling is to eat plenty of good fats.

It is completely safe to eat fat especially if you aren't eating carby foods. My diet is about 70%fat, 20%protein, and 10%carbs which all come from non-starchy veggies, hard cheeses, and nuts and seeds.

It took a few days to get into the groove of things, but now I feel much better. My blood sugars stay within a 10-15 point range and I never experience that shaky feeling anymore.

I put butter on my veggies, I drizzle olive oil on my salads, and I make a great dessert with coconut oil that I eat everyday. It helps more than anything.

2tbsp melted coconut oil
1tbsp unsweetened cocoa powder
2 pack splenda or stevia to taste

mix all together with whisk. put in freezer for about 20 minutes. YUMMY!

This has been the only recipe that I have found to get my coconut oil in. It keeps me full and I feel like I've eaten a candy bar:)
 
Posted by marypart (Member # 27012) on :
 
I put lots of frozen veggies: brocolli, brussel sprouts, slice okra, cauliflower, squash, zuchhini.

I spread a variety out on a cookie sheet/ jelly roll pan. I fill the whole sheet. Then I sprinkle all of them with olive oil--lots and then sprinkle with plenty of salt. Bake at 425 degrees for 20 minutes... until it is starting to brown.

Really filling, really good for the stomach and colon.

I take them for lunch with leftover chicken, meat or fish.

Those veggies are a life saver... I make them at least 4 nights a week.
 


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